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Author Topic: upgrade damage of XL70E3  (Read 4167 times)

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Re: upgrade damage of XL70E3
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2012, 08:52:06 pm »

Mmmmh, dude, did you tested damage IG? Because at range only 1/3 of bullets can hit main target, rounded up. And with 8 bullet, I actually think 4 can hit the target, or it would mean the spread isn't symetric (or that a bullet disappear, unlikely).

This is true. XL70 would have 3.66 bullets hit the target on average, AR would have 3.75.

XL70 will do more damage on average compared to an AR.
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2012, 09:37:41 pm »

XL70 would have 3.66 bullets hit the target on average, AR would have 3.75.
Mmmh, I don't really understand where that difference come from. If 4 bullets try to hit the target with 95%, result should be the same no matter what gun shoot them. Or is that because of the "target skipping" when one bullet fail to hit for the volley of 1/6 bullets which try to hit each critter in line ? Those would be 2 bullets for the AR and 3 for the XL?
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2012, 09:47:20 pm »

1/6 hit target, 1/3rd go each side, remaining bullets follow centre line until one misses.

AR
1/6 = 12/6 = 2
1/3rd each side = 12/= 4
Remaining bullets = 12-4-4-2 = 2

So Bullets hit = (2*0.95) + 0.95 + 0.95^2

XL70
1/6 = 8/6 = 1
1/3rd each side = 8/3 = 2
Remaining bullets = 8-2-2-1 = 3

So Bullets hit = (1*0.95) + 0.95 + 0.95^2 + 0.95^3
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Re: upgrade damage of XL70E3
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2012, 10:10:02 pm »

assault rifle make more dmg in practice i tried it and i decided according to this test that assault is better it is XL7 better for burst i will not write here thats all i am only want balanced game and people dont using XL70 for burst only assault and they know why clear 3 burst little more dmg per burst
« Last Edit: February 08, 2012, 10:15:37 pm by LennY project »
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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2012, 10:31:46 pm »

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That's what I thought, thank you for confirmation.

On topic: well, maybe extend the clip to make XL able to fully burst 3 times?
About what you experienced, that seem pretty weird to me, considering the numbers. Will try to test that out.
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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2012, 10:51:36 pm »

Yes, I tested and it didn't seem to make sense. Turns out it is slightly differnt, but different enough to make a difference in some circumstances.

Needs some fixes :)

EDIt: Actually only affects XL70
« Last Edit: February 08, 2012, 10:58:39 pm by Solar »
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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2012, 11:06:45 pm »

New XL70 stats will be 20-40 (same as Sniper) and 24 clip size. It now will now correctly be above the AR.
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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2012, 11:39:42 pm »

Is the bug because of this weird number of bullets? I am very curious about that issue.
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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2012, 11:54:41 pm »

Yo, real talk. Make it use .223 FMJ.
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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2012, 12:04:29 am »

It was due to the way the left and right side bullets are worked out. It just happened that the only weapon where it made a difference was the xl70
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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2012, 02:53:38 am »

20-40 and 8 per burst? ;D are you mad?
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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2012, 03:18:46 am »

ftw its almost like m60 u serious ?.....
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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2012, 10:46:51 am »

Solar are u rly know how to balance things?
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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2012, 11:07:42 am »

Thankfully, yes.

Before XL70 was 5% worse at burst than the AR, now it will be 21% better.

It isn't some doomsday weapon as those responses seem to indicate, but then its complicated, so I see why you don't understand.
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« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2012, 11:13:14 am »

Not so you know its not only affect burst


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