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TC system
Catoptromancy:
The timer is also very important, it is a call for pvp. Last season I would be out punching cows or something and see the tc timer show up. I would check pipboy and see who currently has town and if I should defend it. If I decide to defend town I would relog, join up mumble or irc and see what else is going to happen. In a matter of minutes many people could be assimilated to help defend or take a town.
If people were bored and wanted pvp, start up a TC timer...would be very likely another small army would show up. They know exactly when and where TC was happening.
Maybe TC capturing just like last season, but TC rewards are depended upon influence.
T-888:
We have hinkley for staged fights and instant PvP that is designed for PvP , we also have the ability to fight in cities. If you think that is ridiculous , then well you most probably don't understand how staged fights differ from fights in cities.
--- Quote from: Badger on February 03, 2012, 12:23:31 AM ---I have no idea why town centres are still combat areas. I can understand having a town controlled by a faction, but having the centre of that same town be the actual warzone seems ridiculous (so does fighting in maps not designed for combat).
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Because it's interesting , entertaining , fun , cool ... whatever. Not for you , don't participate in TC and don't try to spoil the fun for others in that case.
ErnestGaskin:
--- Quote from: T-888 on February 03, 2012, 12:17:56 AM ---Hating PvP won't make RP pretty.
Cities are warzones because factions should fight for them , it's a feature called town control for a damn good reason , so it makes a lot more sense than you actually can comprehend. Entertainment is a part of it all for certain groups of players , actually for most of the server population. Your the minority that doesn't like TC in general , so deal with it.
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I should warn you not to get into planes of what i cant or cannot comprehend. Its you who keeps missing the point.
1) No city would appreciate constant fights in it. Actually, what those cities would do is vanish from the map after the first fight. Is there anything more logical in the entire universe?
2) You blind? Did you see numbers of people online? SoT and Hawks are _hardly_ majority of the players.
3) Its not about liking or not liking TC. Or PvP. Its about the fact that slave trade doesnt work because there are twats controlling den. Its about the fact that no sane person enters broken hills. And that goes for the most of this world cities.
I get that you guys like PvP. I get that you want to have you fights and you just _need_ to stand above dead bodies calling them noobz. I know that and i kind of understand it. The point is there is no place for that in cities. Doesnt make sense and gets the life sucked out of this game.
I bet if you guys had a different PvP places/chances/events/whatever you would not bitch about TC system and would let it develop into something sensible for a change. Thats my point.
If you want to get into semantics about what town control actually means, you will realize that right now we are the closest we ever been.
--- Quote from: Badger on February 03, 2012, 12:23:31 AM ---I have no idea why town centres are still combat areas.
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I wrote about this few posts ago. The reason is simple. This TC system is designed so it would make more sense, yet there are still some people stuck in the old ways. They try to take/hold cities by force and then spam forums wondering why doesnt it work.
About your points,
Ad 1, Thats what i meant about moving PvP elsewhere. But then it doesnt have to be TC, does it. TC can remain intact and worked on (now when it makes sense), meanwhile people keep ubapwna each others elsewhere.
Ad 2, yeah. we call that hinkley.
Wichura:
--- Quote from: T-888 on February 03, 2012, 12:17:56 AM ---Hating PvP won't make RP pretty.
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Right, because there's nothing in the middle. This is good, that is bad, black or white, gray is forbidden. Of course RP means standing whole day around a barrel, writing "/e drinks beer", pew-pew not included.
Jeez.
--- Quote from: T-888 on February 03, 2012, 12:17:56 AM ---Cities are warzones because factions should fight for them
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Why?
--- Quote from: T-888 on February 03, 2012, 12:17:56 AM ---it's a feature called town control for a damn good reason , so it makes a lot more sense than you actually can comprehend. Entertainment is a part of it all for certain groups of players , actually for most of the server population. Your the minority that doesn't like TC in general , so deal with it.
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So far it's more Toilet Control than Town Control, it seems.
And how can you be so sure that most of the population likes, participates or even gives a shit about TC? It's just a few swarms, including their alts, these people are interested in this ... feature. I doubt there is a table or a graph, that clearly shows "51% apes, 49% lumberjacks" or something, however pumping an ego with being "a majority of population" is just dumb.
T-888:
--- Quote from: ErnestGaskin on February 03, 2012, 12:35:14 AM ---1) No city would appreciate constant fights in it. Actually, what those cities would do is vanish from the map after the first fight. Is there anything more logical in the entire universe?
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Appreciate ? A military organization march's into a city , there's just no choice. Now you want to pin in realism in this game ?
--- Quote from: ErnestGaskin on February 03, 2012, 12:35:14 AM ---2) You blind? Did you see numbers of people online? SoT and Hawks are _hardly_ majority of the players.
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SOT , BBS , CS , Crazy 88 , VSB , RDA , TTTLA , BHH , TSAR , Amboy dukes factions who have something to do with TC , not to mention all these new groups smaller ones that try to participate TC in some sort of way The Void , Toxic Avengers , Outcasts etc. etc. there are more. You have no idea , as i said you can't comprehend.
--- Quote from: ErnestGaskin on February 03, 2012, 12:35:14 AM ---3) Its not about liking or not liking TC. Or PvP. Its about the fact that slave trade doesnt work because there are twats controlling den. Its about the fact that no sane person enters broken hills. And that goes for the most of this world cities.
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Controlling factions decide on what rules they set in their cities not all of them shoot everyone on sight , this PK/APK stuff whole organizations and teams have born on these principles.
--- Quote from: ErnestGaskin on February 03, 2012, 12:35:14 AM ---The point is there is no place for that in cities. Doesnt make sense and gets the life sucked out of this game.
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Quite the opposite.
--- Quote from: ErnestGaskin on February 03, 2012, 12:35:14 AM ---If you want to get into semantics about what town control actually means, you will realize that right now we are the closest we ever been.
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Yes sure spending hours and hours afking characters in cities , very sensible.
--- Quote from: ErnestGaskin on February 03, 2012, 12:35:14 AM ---Ad 1, Thats what i meant about moving PvP elsewhere. But then it doesnt have to be TC, does it. TC can remain intact and worked on (now when it makes sense), meanwhile people keep ubapwna each others elsewhere.
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TC stays where it is , can keep yapping more how it can be something else. Few individuals can yapp about that forever , i don't give a fuck actually because as i said your the minority.
--- Quote from: Wichura on February 03, 2012, 12:41:32 AM ---however pumping an ego with being "a majority of population" is just dumb.
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See above , yes majority.
--- Quote from: Wichura on February 03, 2012, 12:41:32 AM ---Why?
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Because it is like that in this game for years , most of the players accept that , deal with that and have fun.
Your just trying to argue about something so impossible to convince , people who actually don't participate in TC much or not at all will tell those who does how TC should be , just what the fuck ?
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