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[Hects Hakal]

Well i must say that i like it really much-devs you did a find piece of work almost everything is better now including barter,blueprints and so on. Theres only two things that should be tweaked-det rate (i know,everyone whines about it) and well-the repair could be as it was pre-wipe but except for that its great

[bobek289]

+1 for repair

[Michaelh139]

How come repair?

Repair is fine, there just needs to be 2 types of actions on an item.

Management - you clean, re-adjust, etc   Small + to repair and includes a 60 second cooldown.
Junking - you sacrifice the viability of one item for the sake of the other's quality.  (Like it is right now)


My opinion on the era.... is meh (When you put everything together, this era is gonna suck, because so many bugs and glitches screwed up it's future, but that's a BETA so i can't complain much ;P )

[bobek289]

It allready sucks 

[Wallace]

Well repair was an idea but it turned out bad... IN F3 you pawned enemies in PvE where you gathered plenty of half broke stuff

In FO to repair something you need to do PvP (which quite a plenty of players dislike) or crafting a new ones but:
1 - if you craft new ones why fix old ones?
2 - new ones cannot be crafted since blueprints arent availible

Possible solutions:
1- revert fixing stuff to pre-wipe feature
2- use materials (metal parts, alloys, fibers, etc) to fix broken stuff
3- add more PvE bad guys (i don't want to slay good guys - NCR - for their armors)

I run a faction of benevolent crafters and PvE fighters (mostly) and i regret to say that it's hard to start for such people... PvP apes on the other hand seems to be thriving...

[Reiniat]

with lots of bugs, i supoose you mean followers bugs, being sincereous i like that mercs, slaves and followers ae bugged the las week was probably the only week in Fonline that i ve not killed by a merc leader or spawn killed.
Also there are many other bugs and balance stuff that needs to be solved, like sneaker bursters, and the whole sneak issue, some quests etc.
Also i like the new way to get stuff, but in the end big gangs just pass upon it, and it only affects a few little gangs and loners
And i love that armors are no more a "status" sign, instead of that you can easy get most armors, but you need decent repair to keep them protecting yourself

1 - if you craft new ones why fix old ones?
2- use materials (metal parts, alloys, fibers, etc) to fix broken stuff
3- add more PvE bad guys (i don't want to slay good guys - NCR - for their armors)

1.- youre wrong; you need old ones to repait new ones, thtars the purpose of the "paper armor" issue
2.- YES +1
3.- Nah, i really like the idea of have to slain certain faction to get some stuff, it makes disliking a new isue, in the last era everything was about be idiolized by every faction, now you have to make decisions. you cant be liked by everybody, AND OF COURSE, THERE ARE NO GOOD FACTIONS, especially NCR.

[Michaelh139]

I also meant the tc bugs.

[Trokanis]

I think the repair should be reworked slightly also.  I like most the new features, with the standard gripes (Det on gear, respawn on res, ect.) But so far the repair system has been the most difficult to adjust to, let alone make work.  I don't know if my skill is too low but for some reason when I attempt to repair one metal armor with another nothing happens.  I don't mind the idea of needing materials to fix things, but perhaps adding in the ability to use more of the base stuff for repair ie junk, metal, alloys, and so forth. That way people don't have to spend a ton of time hunting that type of equipment, or building whole new sets over and over, just to repair an item.  It has basically become a use an armor once and toss it sorta system, and that is really anti-fallout.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

This gaming session didn't change anything with respects to alting. It actually made me alt even more lol.

[bobek289]

Maybe it should be "status" sign. Like some weapons are. I liked it before, if you see someone in CA you know that you should watch out, or if you are high lvl, kill him for his expensive "suit"

[Wallace]

(...)
Also i like the new way to get stuff, but in the end big gangs just pass upon it, and it only affects a few little gangs and loners
(...)

1.- youre wrong; you need old ones to repait new ones, thtars the purpose of the "paper armor" issue
2.- YES +1
3.- Nah, i really like the idea of have to slain certain faction to get some stuff, it makes disliking a new isue, in the last era everything was about be idiolized by every faction, now you have to make decisions. you cant be liked by everybody, AND OF COURSE, THERE ARE NO GOOD FACTIONS, especially NCR.

What do you mean by "only"? loners and small gangs are a mass of people out there!

1 - meant if you can craft armors then you basically need to make a new one to fix old one and if you can craft them then why bothe fixing old one?

3 - maybe i should write good guys with "..." not to get misunderstood.
I mean why should i spoil my rep if i only want to get the armor from somwhere and do it myself somehow? You think it's a bad idea to have a possiblility to make a choice to kill "fair" guys or "villains"?

[bobek289]

Wallace you are loosing your breath. I`ve tried to explain that but no one listen. But when i read your post, i think that mine is a bit confusing 
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=20628.15

[Solar]

3- add more PvE bad guys (i don't want to slay good guys - NCR - for their armors

This is what shall happen. Raider groups with decent gear will begin to turn up - away from other high tech encounters (so there's no vs encounter give aways).

You can then kill these without destroying your rep with towns.


Repair/det/blueprints - these just need some tweaks. I'm pretty sure this system will be a lot better in the end.


These bugs and teething problems are the price we pay for changing almost everything on the game in one go. This season was always going to be about adjusting all the new systems and making sure they work as intended.

[Wallace]

*shows Solar a thumbs up*

Wallace you are loosing your breath. I`ve tried to explain that but no one listen. But when i read your post, i think that mine is a bit confusing 
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=20628.15

Don't you worry - i got iron lungs!    *cough* *Cough* *COUGH*... *reaches for another cigarette*

Well actually bobek i'm not 100% sure if i understood what are you trying to say but i think i got the main picture ;]

[yoz]

How come repair?

Repair is fine, there just needs to be 2 types of actions on an item.

Management - you clean, re-adjust, etc   Small + to repair and includes a 60 second cooldown.
Junking - you sacrifice the viability of one item for the sake of the other's quality.  (Like it is right now)


My opinion on the era.... is meh (When you put everything together, this era is gonna suck, because so many bugs and glitches screwed up it's future, but that's a BETA so i can't complain much ;P )

I agree with this.

It would be better if you use the old system to maintain items in good condition and the new system to replace parts for items in bad condition.

For example, you need no additional item to repair if the condition is above 50%, but you need an additional item to repair if the condition is below 50%.