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Quiting game forever cause was killed for no reason numerous times
Tomowolf:
--- Quote from: Surf on January 15, 2012, 10:50:52 PM ---If you get instakilled in a random encounter (other player moved in) this has nothing to do with a "hard game". For the game to be "hard", there first must be a chance that you actually can fight back.
It's the same if I would login to my GM account, roam the desert randomly and shoot players in random encounters 4 the lolz. Sounds pretty fair huh? Or will you complain that you got killed without a chance to defend then? Following your logic, this should be completely ok because the Wasteland is harsh and there are always people stronger than you!11 Right?
Seeing how those Mercs still have superhuman reflexes and can shoot things on sight this is far from being "fair". Again, dieing because of bad odds with no chance of defending has no reason to stay in a game, no matter if it's about "the wasteland" or not - there is no difficulty involved. If someone "earned" these mercs by whichever means it does not grant him the right to exploit the game and kill people in situations where they (given gameplay mechanics, loading times etc) can not defend themselves.
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So balance game and make 1st level guy kill 24 lvl guy, make them happier, your post didnt bring anything to disscussion but only make me flame things :S.
It is harsh for its atmosphere, it is hard because one guy got minigun and can insta kill, yes and what can be done against it? ban or what? You need to deal with it and go get minigun and payback or just die again whining more that game mechanism is hard, tell that to Devs to change some level req's to get killed by other player...
It isnt fair, but what you'll do with it?
Look at people in Africa that are poor - they can be enslaved by local gang , and forced to work for them, also others are killed , is it fair? No it isnt and we cant do shit against it, if whole community dont help, as it wont help because at least 50% of players dont care.
Personally getting instakilled isnt fair but what? Many times I was killed by some BoS vs Gecko while got crafted 100 cw and should I ragequit because of "stoopid game mechanics" or first report that bug?
There was also other topic there whining on that player could enter other's player encoutner and kill him - is it fair? Is it intend or fail game mechanic? No its just normal thing in the world, and roaming around the cities may e deadly, because some guys will always scout for newbies and kill them.
If you find way to balance 1st level vs 24th lvl tell me please.
Talking about chance to defend is like getting a crafter character versus some pvp ape charcter, Imagine which one got more chance to survive and kill each other? Iam just saying this all the time that you can't do against that for now, but need to get more tougher, and dont go in same place if you did die there.
Talking about instakills because someone wait in encounter for newbie is just same, you can't do shit, you'll make rule that one cannot camp for newbie or ban for it or what?
Surf:
It may surprise you, but real life isn't a videogame. Videogames are supposed to be fun . Dieing with no chance to defend yourself is not fun because there is no "game" involved for neither of the combatants (the receiving end is disapointed and the "killer" has a "lulz"). Thus, it is a crappy gameplay element that needs to be tweaked.
Prometheus Pithras:
--- Quote from: Tomowolf on January 15, 2012, 10:56:05 PM ---Personally getting instakilled isnt fair but what? Many times I was killed by some BoS vs Gecko while got crafted 100 cw and should I ragequit because of "stoopid game mechanics" or first report that bug?
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i always found absurd the fact that guards/npcs can kill you with theyr bursts and you cant defend yourself, but if you do accidentally shoot any, everyone will shoot/attack you hahaha, aswell as the unarmed npcs not running away from a minigun/armed guy, like in reno, you hit someone, whole damn npcs come to make you moonwalk and break your armor with "no damage" haha its bullshit
Tomowolf:
--- Quote from: Surf on January 15, 2012, 11:02:47 PM ---It may surprise you, but real life isn't a videogame. Videogames are supposed to be fun . Dieing with no chance to defend yourself is not fun because there is no "game" involved for neither of the combatants (the receiving end is disapointed and the "killer" has a "lulz"). Thus, it is a crappy gameplay element that needs to be tweaked.
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Still you didn't give proper answer.
How you will balance thing that Guy newbie with low level and low tier gun, armor can defend against? He cannot and what? Should he have some magical shield helping him or what?
Players from beginning should learn how to play proper game and how to get fun from it
Its a MMORPG so all fun comes from PvE, PvP and questmaking.
PvE is cool but need proper level to do it, same with PvP but it need skills and there arent so much quests to make, so what could bring fun there? Of course Iam not saying that people should be happy bcuz their tamagochi FOnline character got isntakilled, but they should think what the hell happend and what to do next time to not die.
Sometimes you gain fun by playing game, sometimes not.
I can give you example with League of Legends:
You play a match which stays for like 60 minutes, and you just are about almost to win, but one of your team mates goes offline and you lose match due to that thing, then your rewards by playing match are 60% smaller, was the time worth it seriously?
Also there are more examples in game, which don't bring fun but make you more annoyed or bored like gathering stuff(for now) crafting etc. and still there are things which bring fun.
Please give normal answer next time, and don't play with me some word game but serious answer.
Floodnik:
Surf, for one man to have fun, other has to suffer.
Many people have so much fun when they kill other players and know that they are angry/sad... Pretty much sadists.
That's why they play this game.
Believe me, if you wouldn't let sadistic people fill their fetishes, server population would fall down :P
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