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Solar:
Well, hopefully making the advanced stuff available only from certain fixed maps (to make it more interesting), speeding up the timeouts because of the increased risk (to ... erm, speed it up) and introducing other things to take some of the scrutiny from crafting (so those that don't want to do it don't have to) will help it out. Also, the improved trader system could help out with this somewhat.

That and more drains!

Wichura:
Everything can be "solved" by using alts. Maybe some limit of chars per person? But how to control dynamic IP addresses for example? What about players with shared net, with the same external IP behind router?
It's not just "remove cooldowns now!" case, it's more complicated I'm afraid.

Roachor:
Personally i liked crafting a lot more pre wipe when there was no cooldown. You used what you had available and went out and did shit without worrying about losing your crap.

BubbaBrown:

--- Quote from: Solar on February 19, 2010, 08:53:32 pm ---You can leave people's time free, or you can fill it up with pointless tasks - crafting will be at the same rate regardless. I'm sure some people have realized you can actually play the game whilst timeouts are going, so I'm not too keen on inserting dressing to actively waste peoples time for these people.

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Those tasks are only pointless, if you make them so.

In the end, risk is fun.  PvP has a lot of risk.  (Well, for some people there is risk.)  It is fun because of risk.

Right now, gathering and crafting is safe and boring.  Also... it is very time consuming.  As it stands right now, crafting really only exists to give the starting player enough gear to be worth looting and to keep the elite stocked.  An alternative system that involves players searching for resources with chances of finding nothing, small amounts, or the motherlode, coupled with the usual chances for death and loss would actually make resource gathering interesting.  A player with high skills in the right places could have prospector like abilities to find and lead people to good spots or even good skills to get harder to access materials.  The search and hunt for resources wouldn't be pointless tasks or boring.  I've played games like this...   Star Control 2 had resource gathering like this:  Will this planet have anything value?  Can I safely traverse the surface long enough to get anything?  Will I find large deposits?  Or will I find a crap load of exotic resources?  It was quite fun.  You geared your ship for collection, you plotted your routes, kept track of systems you drained, and had to know when to "fold 'em" at times when you were low on fuel.  All the while you had to be careful when entering enemy space to avoid getting jumped by patrols.

At this point, I just wish the developers would just take a stand, be direct, and say, "NO.  We don't want to do this.  Why?  Because WE like it the way it is.  Don't like it?  Then, FUCK OFF!"  That's directness I could respect.  My only interests in the game is of the sociological variety when it comes to watching the forums.  I never thought a forum could analogue certain aspects of US corporatism politics.


Anyway... To stop the alt issues, just use the Windows API to pull the GUID (Global Unique ID) off the machine.  Most modern machines have one embedded in the BIOS that the OS can access.  If you see the same IP and the same GUID, you got an alter.  Also, the client could do a few calls to check for any other instances of the FOnline client and prevent it from running.

vad:

--- Quote from: BubbaBrown on February 20, 2010, 12:34:19 am ---Anyway... To stop the alt issues, just use the Windows API to pull the GUID (Global Unique ID) off the machine.  Most modern machines have one embedded in the BIOS that the OS can access.  If you see the same IP and the same GUID, you got an alter.  Also, the client could do a few calls to check for any other instances of the FOnline client and prevent it from running.

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FOnline already uses WinAPI.
FindWindow – to find another FOnline windows.
GetVolumeInformation(lpVolumeSerialNumber) and GetAdaptersInfo(pAdapterInfo->Address) to identify machine by hardware.
And that does not stop the alt issues at all.

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