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Whats up with new players?
Stration:
--- Quote from: TommyTheGun on January 09, 2012, 02:16:49 AM ---@Stration
I'm sorry. How does the ignorance of others justify the stuff you do?
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It's not about their ignorance, it's about their unwillingness to learn. And it does not justify 'the stuff I do' so much as it actually necessitates it.
Have you ever heard the term 'tough love' by any chance? I'm like a loving parent that punishes his/her children for doing what they shouldn't do, or not doing things they should be doing, because that's what's in my children's best interest.
Edit: also, a note to moderators here: please kindly stop deleting my posts, they don't violate any of the forum rules, never did, never will be. Instead, whenever you disagree with my point of view, feel invited to join the discussion.
Lupus:
--- Quote from: Stration on January 09, 2012, 01:04:44 PM ---It's not about their ignorance, it's about their unwillingness to learn. And it does not justify 'the stuff I do' so much as it actually necessitates it.
Have you ever heard the term 'tough love' by any chance? I'm like a loving parent that punishes his/her children for doing what they shouldn't do, or not doing things they should be doing, because that's what's in my children's best interest.
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I have never heared bigger BS, than this... . Your best interest is to simply rape newcommers from their collected stuff, and they are learning anyway, and big part of this "noobs" will do the same to others just because someone did it to them before... you know, this is how it works... in prison.
New players are NEW, its not surprize that they will try to comunicate instead of running from every player that they meet outside guarded towns.
Stration:
--- Quote from: Lupus on January 09, 2012, 01:27:47 PM ---I have never heared bigger BS, than this... . Your best interest is to simply rape newcommers from their collected stuff, and they are learning anyway, and big part of this "noobs" will do the same to others just because someone did it to them before... you know, this is how it works... in prison.
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You get it all so terribly wrong now, but don't give up, think[box], and you will learn.
--- Quote from: Lupus on January 09, 2012, 01:27:47 PM ---New players are NEW, its not surprize that they will try to comunicate instead of running from every player that they meet outside guarded towns.
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That's what I'm there for, doing what I'm doing. Everything's in its right place, so to speak.
Wichura:
--- Quote from: Lupus on January 09, 2012, 01:27:47 PM ---I have never heared bigger BS, than this... . Your best interest is to simply rape newcommers from their collected stuff, and they are learning anyway, and big part of this "noobs" will do the same to others just because someone did it to them before... you know, this is how it works... in prison.
New players are NEW, its not surprize that they will try to comunicate instead of running from every player that they meet outside guarded towns.
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As self proclaimed Mother Theresa of Wastes I have to disagree in some parts. I mean yeah, raping newbies "for teh lulz" might seem a bit retarded, but if they are stubborn and smart enough, they will do anything they can to not fall into the same shit again: using preview, scouting the place, learning when and where it's safe to go or not. It comes sometimes after close-to-ragequits feelings, but there is many other games, much easier than this one.
I help newcomers since two years now and the worst thing you can do is give them everything at once (expensive guns, cars, fancy clothes, shitloads of ammo) and carrying them around all the time. Barely anyone would learn how to be self-sufficient that way. Much wiser is to give a newcomer advices, tips, starter set (10 brahmin hides, easy-to-get-if-you-lose-it gun, maybe some tools), so they can see for themselves what is like to be a real Wastelander, not HelloKittyLander.
TommyTheGun:
@Stration
When I used to play the game more often, I happened to follow some folks into the tent just to tell them they have to beware and explain them how to get rid of tent followers. When I saw someone who seemed to be lost, I offered help with getting brahmin hides for example, using the time given to explain most simple rules by the way. I've actually seen those players later and they were doing pretty good, and *were still playing*.
You know what? It might be just another bullshit from my side, but I'm pretty sure they've learned more that way. I've heard that stuff already "They should thank me for robbing them, that way they learn how to play" - cause yeah... when you're new to the game and someone just happens to come to your tent and shoot you in the face to rob everything you were working for since you started, the first thing that comes to your mind is:
"Oh damn, I should know theres probably some following system and probably the best way to avoid it is to look at the window where i probably will se whos after me while I'm on the world map. It doesnt matter I didnt realise theres such window yet, since everything is new to me but I guess I could have read the fucking manual, since this is obviously the very first thing EVERY player do, when starting the new game in order to see if its fun or not. Gee, thank God some wonderfully helpfull guardian angel robbed me from everything I had to offer me this valuable lesson. When I think about it I should probably reconsider what that "tickling" thing means, cause I was sure it's healing but after such a wonderfull experience I probably should guess.... Wait a second, that must be stealing from me! It's so obvious now!"
You probably should also remember that people new to FOnline probably never experienced such "hardcore" MMO before and they are used to a bit different sort of players. I'm not saying all people playing FOnline should act as saints, but making every new player hate this game, cause you abuse existing system and act like a total dickhead (im not trying to be rude, just imagine how those poor bastards feel) is not really... hmm... playerbase-wise. And also - when you rob people, you could at least try to do it RolePlay way - that way they could at least remember the whole thing as a "robbery", not "some asshole stealing my stuff" - well... They could actually see it as a feature of this game, not other players hunting newbies/abusing the game. Once again, try to see it from the begginer's point of view. After all you' could have some more challanging game a bit later - if you give them a chance to actually like the game.
Anyway, I think I understand what you're trying to say, but It's still justifying yourself for doing a nasty, nasty things.
And also, theres a polish statement that "Każda ofiara staje się katem" - every victim becomes executioner with time or something like this. It's true and fcking annoying in real life so why would it work and also be fucking annoying here?
Other than that, peace, bro!
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