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Author Topic: XL-70E3 is almost useless  (Read 5396 times)

Frozen Mind

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XL-70E3 is almost useless
« on: February 18, 2010, 01:17:09 pm »

Requirements to construct XL-70 are really too high. 7 alloys, high cool down and here you have the rifle that is mostly overpriced.

AK-112 expanded has larger magazine (40 rounds), so you can burst many times. (Normal version has 24 rounds in a mag)

FN-Fal has short range and uses R-A-R-E ammunition. 20 rounds and it's mostly not economical to use that weapon (because of ammo).

XL-70 has... 20 rounds in a mag. Burst eats 8. Two bursts and reload. Have anyone seen a person using that weapon? Huh? It should be high class assault rifle. So there are 3 ways to change present situation:

1. Lower requirements to construction - still only odd guys will try to use that.
2. Make that weapon more accurate. Maybe change weap. damage mod. (I don't know mechanic) or add perk/s.
3. Enlarge magazine or add expanded version. Eventually make bursts of 10 or 12 rounds.
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gordulan

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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 01:20:05 pm »

i would actually suggest that the xl7 ought to have at least 32 bullets in a mag and be upgradeable to 60 bullets in a mag, after all 5mm ammo is normally tiny...
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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2010, 01:22:32 pm »

http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/M60
roll eyes weak , rare ammo and expensive like f-k

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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 01:22:58 pm »

Yes, AR as a whole need a boost and the XL70 needs one in particular. These things must wait until Atom is fully back with us, but will be sorted then.
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Florek

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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2010, 01:26:43 pm »

30 in mag and 10/15 burst? :] 30 is standard ammo cap. for most of guns.
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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2010, 04:14:00 pm »

30 in mag and 10/15 burst? :] 30 is standard ammo cap. for most of guns.

If you want reality... minigun would not and will not exist as personal weapon...
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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2010, 04:26:28 pm »

increase its range to at least 45 (personally I vote for 50, it's an expensive rifle)
Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2010, 04:56:58 pm »

Assault rifles are just too weak.. that's true right now P90>XL70E3

gordulan

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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2010, 04:59:19 pm »

doesnt the xl70 still have the advantage of range?
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Frozen Mind

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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2010, 05:19:54 pm »

XL70 has 5 hexes better range than P90.
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gordulan

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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 05:22:27 pm »

damn, not much...
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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2010, 07:01:07 pm »

and the p90 does more damage, at least in my experience.
 
I found the real weapon, it says it uses 5.56mm bullets. What if you change the ammo from 5mm to .233, I think it could be a lot better, like a sniper rifle, less powerful but with burst option.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2010, 07:13:04 pm by Karpov »
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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2010, 07:15:47 pm »

and the p90 does more damage, at least in my experience.
 
I found the real weapon, it says it uses 5.56mm bullets. What if you change the ammo from 5mm to .233, I think it could be a lot better, like a sniper rifle, less powerful but with burst option.

Burst with .223? Omg, this gun must be really really really big.
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Frozen Mind

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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010, 09:00:43 pm »

I think 5mm (as 5.56mm nowadays in real) is an assault rifle standard so there is no reason to change that. Keep it that way... it's Fallout.
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Re: XL-70E3 is almost useless
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010, 09:40:26 pm »

Well, right now the XL70 is quite great example of PLASTICOOL BULLSHIT - worthless right now. Should be balanced abit.
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I think 5mm (as 5.56mm nowadays in real)
Actually 5mm aint 5.56mm. 5.56mm(x45mm if im right) is .223 caliber and the minigun/assault rifle 5mm is fictional ammo.
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