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Wind_Drift:

--- Quote from: Marko on December 26, 2011, 03:06:11 AM ---Just to clarify: i'm not in an APK faction. Also i said not everyone who quits, quits due to PK stuff. I said some do. Those are the only people about whom i am speaking.

The reasons why people quit is certainly not "pure speculation" with no hard facts. We have some facts. We have some data. It's just not conveniently housed in a database. I've known people who joined and quit and i know their reasons. So yes, we have some real data. Some of them quit due to the extreme lack of discretion of real PKs suppressing them from getting a decent start. Not all off them - just some of them.

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The plural of anecdote is not data.

Marko:
You spelled Troll_Drift wrong.  :P

Wichura:

--- Quote from: OskaRus on December 26, 2011, 03:05:30 AM ---Why do people quit fonline?
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- because of too much time required to get basic stuff and even more time to get better stuff, that allows to compete with other people
- because of crawling over the world instead of travelling - it's fixed at last, but during over a year with "fine as it is" speed some people left only because of that
- because of random PK/APK/AAAAAAPK/WhateverPK
- because for not-PvP-oriented players (or non-apes, to keep things short) there is not much to do
- because it's a bit disappointed when you expect online RPG and you get online 2D shooter
- because of Wasteland that is harsh

All of these were gathered through year and a half of our Orphanage existing. Kinda sad, isn't it?

Shonsu:
It's not all that harsh with a low server population.  If the server grew to having 400 or 500 online at a time I think it would become a real pain to do anything. I'd imagine all the HQ mining places would be almost permanently camped by PvP apes making mining almost impossible.  At which point losing a BA or tier 3 weapon would actually suck quite a bit instead of "meh that sets me back an hour or two"

gr1m055:

--- Quote from: Eternauta on December 26, 2011, 02:53:03 AM ---...and I can say, it's not worth doing. It's mostly full of obvious things and stuff already said and discussed about.

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Yes I know I'm beating a dead horse. The main purpose of this thread was to move a discussion out of another so it wouldn't be hijacked and go off topic. It was for forum etiquette reasons why I started this topic. And I well get my last words in on this discussion, there is no sample surveys or any math involved. So conclusions are based on rumor, or by what you hear from talking to other players. For the most part from what I hear from players I play with is that are waiting for wipe. My logical conclusion is Marko probably knows people who quit because of Pkers, and I know people quit because they get sick of losing fights or they are waiting for wipe. I can't think of the right term its all based on rumor or by ear nothing scientifically polled.


--- Quote ---I emphasize "real" above because we're not all in agreement here as to the proper definition of "PK". Some of us are not using "PK" the same as others.


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Its a stupid term and just needs to be put aside move forward and not use these terms. Its best to say PvP PvE ,neutral, hostile noob helper, base raper etc. The way I see it (now its just over killing the horse I'm sorry) is the anti-pk I think of is PvP groups who slaughter everybody and well shoot you if you are in a faction they fight and the PK you refer to are trolls.

I think what was said needed to be said not much else to discuss on my part. I guess we'll just leave this topic to talk about server population or discuss why you have quit the game personally or if you think the wipe well bring more or less players.

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