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greece crisis:

--- Quote from: avv on December 25, 2011, 06:25:54 pm ---So because someone worked his ass off outside of the actual pvp event, he deserves to kick everyone's asses?

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yes..and avv u forget about few important things
1. mercs request from you dayly/monthly salary or they will leave
2. number of mercs is nefted and making merc leader with 270-300speach good natured and mangetic is pain in the ass
3. if i worked my ass to get high lvl mercs i deserw high lvl mercs at begin
4. something for something
5. you cant drop them off the sky now. you have to arm them or wait for them if they will arm themself
6. you cant trade with mercs now, now you have to pay them for everything or rob them
7. try to lvl up 24lvl merc leader who need buff and mentans and cola with 10/10 ch/luck/en and at least pe6 to see your mercs hp with speac 270-300
mercs are finally balanced

gr1m055:

--- Quote from: avv on December 25, 2011, 06:25:54 pm ---So because someone worked his ass off outside of the actual pvp event, he deserves to kick everyone's asses? Isn't this the same thing if you could buy game nukes with real money and drop them over other player's heads without them not being able to do anything about it?
The challenges and decisions which lead to victory must happen inside the pvp, not outside grinding npcs and getting caps. Otherwise it starts an arms race where some are bitching because they don't have what it takes to do pvp, others are bitching it takes too long to get pvp stuff and some are just silent and grudgingly grind, not really enjoying the game but doing what needs to be done to win.
It won't happen all the time but trust me, when a gang wants to really really win it will use every method available. When pvp was hot in current session, we saw mercs in every major confrontation. When you want to win, you use mercs. And if it takes a retard-build to get those mercs, you will get it.

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Well you reap what you sow, and what's wrong with competition? Come on its you who basically started its the Wasteland its harsh thing in IRC. Its the Wasteland its harsh the weak well parish the strong well survive.

avv:

--- Quote from: greece crisis on December 25, 2011, 07:49:11 pm ---yes..and avv u forget about few important things
1. mercs request from you dayly/monthly salary or they will leave
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So grind more.


--- Quote ---2. number of mercs is nefted and making merc leader with 270-300speach good natured and mangetic is pain in the ass
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Why do we need pain in the ass builds?


--- Quote ---3. if i worked my ass to get high lvl mercs i deserw high lvl mercs at begin
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In my opinion you don't. Just because you have more freetime to grind money, it doesn't mean you're the king of the server.


--- Quote ---4. something for something
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Which doesn't apply with alts.


--- Quote ---5. you cant drop them off the sky now. you have to arm them or wait for them if they will arm themself
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With "attack everyone" they rearm pretty damn fast already. It's just you can't pull out like before. But if you win the fight, that hardly matters.


--- Quote ---6. you cant trade with mercs now, now you have to pay them for everything or rob them
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Bug? If not, then you steal from them with your thief alt in your base.


--- Quote ---7. try to lvl up 24lvl merc leader who need buff and mentans and cola with 10/10 ch/luck/en and at least pe6 to see your mercs hp with speac 270-300
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It's doable, so there's nothing to it. People who want that kind of build just do it whether or not they like it, it's just another thing if it's good we have this kind of builds around.



--- Quote from: gr1m055 on December 25, 2011, 07:54:49 pm ---Well you reap what you sow, and what's wrong with competition? Come on its you who basically started its the Wasteland its harsh thing in IRC. Its the Wasteland its harsh the weak well parish the strong well survive.
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Grinding competition? Because it's boring. I like to compete against my enemies face to face, not who has the most patience to grind.

greece crisis:
avv stop crying.
mercs are finally balanced and solar should close this topic. everyone use mercs and stop crying about it.

gr1m055:
Maybe I suggest you go PvP ape build and not use a merc leader if that's not what you like doing?

You're giving us the impression that there should be no reward for making a pain in the ass character to level and very expensive to maintain? I think its balanced not everybody is going to be using this build. You're not the only person who doesn't have patience to spend hours on end leveling and making caps. But for those that do yes I think they should at least have a reward for making this shit build you so speak about. Plus you didn't even post the build so not everybody is going to know how to make it, unless you blab your mouth about the build its not going to be well known. So if you do not want this AVV I suggest you keep this build to your self and let people experiment trying to figure it out, they well either figure it out or give up.

But knowing how TTTLA and its friends operate, you well probably just tell your TTTLA friends so they have an edge like usual. Then it well be others who well complain and not you if this happens as you speak.

I do not see a problem with Merc battles, they are risky because its expensive and people get pissed off losing mercs because of this. So I do not see this as a daily occurrence if these sort of battles happen. As long as you can't add these Mercs to the militia which makes them more powerful then it well be fine as is in my opinion.

Mercs are hard to control, if you set them to kill everybody to go off ramboing like idiots and players can 1 hex them in a room or something. If you control them with this so called build it well die easily so what is the big deal?

I hate merc leaders just as much as anybody else but I think its worth the time and money players put into them because it does take hours if not days to maintain a good amount of caps to support them. I just hate when mercs are added to militia and they are 500 hp and do godly amount of criticals and fire rapidly without reloading in the current session when its used against me. But I can't complain when I'm on the side of using this tactic :D

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