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TEH WIPE IS SOON!
Lupus:
--- Quote from: Kilgore on December 26, 2011, 12:21:26 AM ---Players aren't "clients" because they don't pay for anything. Players are offered a totally free game yet all they are doing is posting whine posts which doesn't help much. Developers don't need players as they have already stated that they would continue their work on this project even if there were 10 people online (or none). And no matter how unfortunate you find it, it's true :P
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I take it as irony, coz, you would be surprised how important are players who just play for free. You get "donators" only because x-hundred people play just for their own fun. If you get rid of "free players" you would also lose your precious donators because no one would pay for dead project.
So technicly, players of any game are custommers - and in community whines you may find useful feedback.
I'm just sayin' ::).
Eraus:
To me main problem is that I would (and I think maybe other players) have played this game in many months ago if word "soon" wasn't been used before at all. I always browsing in forums(if it is private server) about wipe, because its fun to start on new clean land, also I don't want to start with knowing that my hard work will be wiped "SOON".
I played many games on private servers, and words like wipe are banned on forums unless wipe is really coming soon. Reason: new players don't want to start new game if they know that their progress will be wiped "soon".
Don't get me wrong wipe is good for old players and new player too but its so freaking bad for new player if they can read on forum that wipe will be soon, but it should have been written that wipe will NOT be soon.
My story:
I played this game on this season then I left this game for my reasons, when I came back here I was demoralized to start all from nothing because my tent with all the pressures goods was gone, so I decided to wait for wipe. And now I'm waiting about 1 year, if devs somewhere would have been written that wipe will NOT coming soon, then I'm sure would have started play this game long time ago again. And of coarse now when it's official that wipe will be soon I'm sure not starting playing this game now. I will wait and wait.
Maybe its only me. Still "soon" not helped anyone its pure demagogy.
Kilgore:
--- Quote from: OskaRus on December 26, 2011, 02:42:59 AM ---Some players donate so they are practically clients. And even if players are not clients they are either products or pain in the ass.
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Players? Products? Dude, you should change your dealer sometimes ;)
And donation is not a payment, but some people keep to claim otherwise.
--- Quote ---You get "donators" only because x-hundred people play just for their own fun. If you get rid of "free players" you would also lose your precious donators because no one would pay for dead project.
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Let's assume that all players stopped donations and there is no money to keep the server up. So? Oh wait, players can't play because there is no 2238 online. And then, what happens? Absolutely nothing. Devs are still able to work on the project (probably for fun, as they didn't get paid for it before, so nothing changes) as to keep repository and test server you don't need to pay for a dedicated server, as almost any PC switched on 24/7 will do the job. Heck, they can even invite few people for some closed beta testing, it's not demanding as keeping 100 or 300 players online without lags.
Conclusion: players donate so they have a place where they can play. They don't, they can go play requiem or tla mk2 or whatever.
Eraus:
--- Quote from: Kilgore on December 26, 2011, 10:58:42 AM ---And donation is not a payment, but some people keep to claim otherwise.
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Conclusion: players donate so they have a place where they can play. They don't, they can go play requiem or tla mk2 or whatever.
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Your conclusion is: they pay for play...
Kilgore:
It's your conclusion, not mine.
Developers don't get any profit from that. Yet some players talk about "devs begging for money" while the only receiving side is the playerbase again. So yeah, devs beg for money so that a horde of trolls and whiners can play their favourite game again :> How logical.
Doesn't matter how much uncomfortable it makes you, they make the game totally for free, you're not their customer, and therefore they have the full right to keep all of your demands and requests deep in their asses (though surprisingly they still listen to your crying sometimes). Btw I bet that most of demands come from people that have never donated a single buck for the server ;D So far, every whining player of 2238 that I asked about how much he donated ever, answered: "zero", sometimes with "because devs/game sucks" excuse :> Nuff said.
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