Other > Winter 2011/2012
bg balance
jacky:
t-888 i have more exp than you on tc so stop using this as argument. but is see conv with you has no sense because you can see only tip of your own nose, only you have right to say what is good and what is bad, well my friend u are just common player and stop acting like fucking prima donna. if you are telling me 1sniper can handle +++brd bg now you are wrong. snipers can handle bg but only if you are one of tttla zerling and all what you can do is rush da loot.
and i know av can be looted now only from enclave..i like this idea of making this rare weapon but it is still overpowered, i would like to see gatling gun with perk spray and prey with booseted damage than av as ultimate weapon.
rockets arent same now and in cbt. i know how many damage can deal normal rocket: 30-90, and in cbt only 30-50, and i know bg is good because of splash damage and kd but it is to weak now. what is splash of 30 damage on each player? nothing
and i like bg-s but now they are to strond compare to other classes
t-888 you can be polite to my dick, who isnt agree with me? hahaha t888 you dont have to post here if you are type of person "i know better because i know better"
Crazy:
--- Quote from: jacky on December 12, 2011, 02:57:18 pm --- if you are telling me 1sniper can handle +++brd bg now you are wrong.
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I remember a time where big gunner could make 3 burst at 120 damage in a row to sniper, at 35hex range, with 10luck, 10end and 250HP. Know what? Sniper survived and good snipers teams were still slaughtering big guns in open fields.
--- Quote from: jacky on December 12, 2011, 02:57:18 pm ---snipers can handle bg but only if you are one of tttla zerling and all what you can do is rush da loot.
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Won't even comment a so pathetic sentence.
--- Quote from: jacky on December 12, 2011, 02:57:18 pm ---and i know av can be looted now only from enclave..i like this idea of making this rare weapon but it is still overpowered, i would like to see gatling gun with perk spray and prey with booseted damage than av as ultimate weapon.
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Both will probably be great weapons. Not ultimate either.
--- Quote from: jacky on December 12, 2011, 02:57:18 pm ---rockets arent same now and in cbt. i know how many damage can deal normal rocket: 30-90, and in cbt only 30-50, and i know bg is good because of splash damage and kd but it is to weak now. what is splash of 30 damage on each player? nothing
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Use AP rockets and then come back. 50 damage on 3 players + KD effect is more than viable.
--- Quote from: jacky on December 12, 2011, 02:57:18 pm ---and i like bg-s but now they are to strond compare to other classes
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They are too strong only against energy, which sucks balls without BRoF.
--- Quote from: jacky on December 12, 2011, 02:57:18 pm ---t-888 you can be polite to my dick, who isnt agree with me? hahaha t888 you dont have to post here if you are type of person "i know better because i know better"
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You are same type of person. More retarded though.
Conclusion: Go learn to play and then come back to testing.
jacky:
and i heard that from tttla ;D
hehehe no fucking way ;]
T-888:
--- Quote from: jacky on December 12, 2011, 02:57:18 pm ---t-888 i have more exp than you on tc so stop using this as argument. but is see conv with you has no sense because you can see only tip of your own nose, only you have right to say what is good and what is bad, well my friend u are just common player and stop acting like fucking prima donna. if you are telling me 1sniper can handle +++brd bg now you are wrong. snipers can handle bg but only if you are one of tttla zerling and all what you can do is rush da loot.
and i know av can be looted now only from enclave..i like this idea of making this rare weapon but it is still overpowered, i would like to see gatling gun with perk spray and prey with booseted damage than av as ultimate weapon.
rockets arent same now and in cbt. i know how many damage can deal normal rocket: 30-90, and in cbt only 30-50, and i know bg is good because of splash damage and kd but it is to weak now. what is splash of 30 damage on each player? nothing
and i like bg-s but now they are to strond compare to other classes
t-888 you can be polite to my dick, who isnt agree with me? hahaha t888 you dont have to post here if you are type of person "i know better because i know better"
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First of all you don't know anything about me , with whom i play or how long and the raw amount of time played is not a factor how good you play or how precise your judgment of balance is , in this case it is horribly off the track.
The combat balance surely doesn't circle around that one build can be better than other in 1 vs 1 situations , you must think bigger , think about team fights. Of course big gunner has much advantages over a sniper in certain scenarios , but it doesn't mean it's unbalanced , they aside from each other with certain variables and utilities for combat purposes used effectively by major fighting parties in the wasteland.
--- Quote from: jacky on December 12, 2011, 02:57:18 pm ---t-888 you can be polite to my dick, who isnt agree with me?
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Umm , no one agrees with you ...
--- Quote from: jacky on December 12, 2011, 04:09:37 pm ---and i heard that from tttla ;D
hehehe no fucking way ;]
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So what he is still a reasonable person that is amazingly polite to you despite your stupid answers.
--- Quote from: Crazy on December 12, 2011, 03:59:42 pm ---Conclusion: Go learn to play and then come back to testing.
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This
zuhardu:
If there is one thing I've learned in two and a half years of playing FOnline is that you are NEVER right (no matter who you are) when you have a discussion with Crazy or T888. Arguments or examples don't work on them so stop trying, my suggestion for jacky is to chill, have a beer and have fun playing. This fight was lost before it even started.
Still, I'm considering changing my signature with this:
--- Quote from: Crazy on December 12, 2011, 03:59:42 pm ---I remember a time where big gunner could make 3 burst at 120 damage in a row to sniper, at 35hex range, with 10luck, 10end and 250HP. Know what? Sniper survived and good snipers teams were still slaughtering big guns in open fields.
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...it's just awesome. Good snipers teams never slaughtered good bg teams until this wipe. Bg's were very good at close range and at medium range. Also, higer HP, crazy damage (the damage was also constant, unlike snipers which needed bypass and crits), toughness, drugs (like psycho whitch made bg's/bursters into BOS paladins), fewer action points needed for shooting with the weapons that matter (sniper vs av, mini, rl) etc. All these are not my "opinions', there are facts. Don't get me wrong, I understood that I cannot stop the bg era, if players love so much their bg's it's probablly ok to return the "good times" but I am just intrigued when I read quotes like Crazy's and I can't help myself to answer. That sniper that took 3 bursts at 120 damage and survived must of been a hell of a guy and if he is the reason that snipers should be nerfed, I agree.
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