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gr1m099

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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #75 on: November 30, 2011, 08:46:18 pm »

Yup that's the reality of it, except they are allied with the international anti-pk gang where they get their numbers. Which is why I thought they were anti-pk. But they are just roleplayers who like to so say things like for Great Justice when they PvP. At least that is cleared up and makes it less hypocritical but for most part they are still assholes for shooting people who help them and say they want a truce and help but still kill us on sight :)

Well that truce is over now anyways have to defend the town from the fanatics.
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wally

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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #76 on: November 30, 2011, 08:52:20 pm »

The difference is, I can never find the numbers to do the same thing back :) That's the frustrating part.

Maybe cuz not everyone thinks the same you do.

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gr1m099

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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #77 on: November 30, 2011, 09:03:49 pm »

Nope, they don't everybody wants to be a wasteland Jesus.

And I know I can't change that, and why I can respect what section 8 does, piss off other players and make their lives miserable because in all honesty I hate this game, it pisses me off and I can't stand the community, Keep up the good work :)

I officially rage quit I can't take this game any longer too much bull shit that pisses me off and hope you all burn in hell.
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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #78 on: November 30, 2011, 09:39:09 pm »

PK & APK are real terms that do apply.  However, that's not to say that everyone who says they're are APK stay that way or behave in way that's better than a PK.  Sure we all kill players at one point or another, but we all know that PK doesn't just mean player killer.  The basics of it are you kill players without provocation.  Like recently I walked into commercial row in New Reno.  Walked in got blasted. Why? Honestly i'm not sure lol... I tried to see if they would talk just so I could understand what was happening, but they'd shoot me too quick and not come over to my dead body.  Or shooting someone as they're running out of a mine.  PK behavior.  APK is trickier yes, but it's still real.  And as I said earlier, if the wasteland is harsh, then wasteland justice must be harsh.  And judging by your reaction I'd say that it's having it's desired effect.


(p.s. I had nothing on me when I went into New Reno, I always go in empty first and see what happens)
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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #79 on: November 30, 2011, 10:11:41 pm »

PK & APK are real terms that do apply.  However, that's not to say that everyone who says they're are APK stay that way or behave in way that's better than a PK.  Sure we all kill players at one point or another, but we all know that PK doesn't just mean player killer.  The basics of it are you kill players without provocation.  Like recently I walked into commercial row in New Reno.  Walked in got blasted. Why? Honestly i'm not sure lol... I tried to see if they would talk just so I could understand what was happening, but they'd shoot me too quick and not come over to my dead body.  Or shooting someone as they're running out of a mine.  PK behavior.  APK is trickier yes, but it's still real.  And as I said earlier, if the wasteland is harsh, then wasteland justice must be harsh.  And judging by your reaction I'd say that it's having it's desired effect.


(p.s. I had nothing on me when I went into New Reno, I always go in empty first and see what happens)

FYI - Reno is considered a PVP free for all zone for most players.  That's why you were killed.  That's just what happens in Reno, and for the most part that's the only reason most people go there.  If you already knew that, then disregard.
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Iguana Pete's sister

Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #80 on: November 30, 2011, 10:16:48 pm »

Nope, they don't everybody wants to be a wasteland Jesus.

And I know I can't change that, and why I can respect what section 8 does, piss off other players and make their lives miserable because in all honesty I hate this game, it pisses me off and I can't stand the community, Keep up the good work :)

I officially rage quit I can't take this game any longer too much bull shit that pisses me off and hope you all burn in hell.

It's almost Christmas.  You know what I'm going to get you?

A giant wooden cross. 

That way, every time you feel unappreciated for all you're insight, you can climb on up and nail yourself to it.

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gr1m099

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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2011, 12:58:16 am »

PK & APK are real terms that do apply.  However, that's not to say that everyone who says they're are APK stay that way or behave in way that's better than a PK.  Sure we all kill players at one point or another, but we all know that PK doesn't just mean player killer.  The basics of it are you kill players without provocation.  Like recently I walked into commercial row in New Reno.  Walked in got blasted. Why? Honestly i'm not sure lol... I tried to see if they would talk just so I could understand what was happening, but they'd shoot me too quick and not come over to my dead body.  Or shooting someone as they're running out of a mine.  PK behavior.  APK is trickier yes, but it's still real.  And as I said earlier, if the wasteland is harsh, then wasteland justice must be harsh.  And judging by your reaction I'd say that it's having it's desired effect.


(p.s. I had nothing on me when I went into New Reno, I always go in empty first and see what happens)

I don't know if anybody has told you or maybe you don't know New Reno is a war zone it is skirmish grounds where factions go to fight each other. Nobody goes to New Reno to visit and say hi they go there looking for other players to kill.

It's almost Christmas.  You know what I'm going to get you?

A giant wooden cross. 

That way, every time you feel unappreciated for all you're insight, you can climb on up and nail yourself to it.

Gee golly thanks, it's what I've always wanted since I was a little boy! Now I can say I died for your PKs but nobody cares because the jolly fat man gets all the attention.
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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2011, 01:12:26 am »

FYI - Reno is considered a PVP free for all zone for most players.  That's why you were killed.  That's just what happens in Reno, and for the most part that's the only reason most people go there.  If you already knew that, then disregard.
Yeah I know it's PvP area.  I was checking the area out to sell some SMG's.
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wally

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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2011, 03:27:19 pm »

Yeah I know it's PvP area.  I was checking the area out to sell some SMG's.

And somebody was checking the area to kill players...seriously, there are thousands merchants in the game, why u need to go so far just to sell smgs ?!?!? pffff.
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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2011, 03:35:23 pm »

Nope, they don't everybody wants to be a wasteland Jesus.

And I know I can't change that, and why I can respect what section 8 does, piss off other players and make their lives miserable because in all honesty I hate this game, it pisses me off and I can't stand the community, Keep up the good work :)

I officially rage quit I can't take this game any longer too much bull shit that pisses me off and hope you all burn in hell.

Grow the fuck up mate. section 8 is only having fun, u should do the same....u are quitting the game cuz u are too worried about shit philosophy and forget to have some fun in game. u think only cuz people belong to a pk or apk faction they don't get hit too, we all got killed in this game, everywhere with or whitout any reason, everyone does something in this shit that someone else disagree, that's life get used to it. You are quitting cuz of stupid discusions like "pk/apk alignment" and TTTLA/C88 bla bla bla...seriously chap, quit, that's the best u can do.
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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #85 on: December 01, 2011, 05:07:22 pm »

lol whoever gets pwned by S8 is uber noob and should hide beheind his momma skirt and leave harsh wasteland for real guys who can properly pwn S8 or whoever appears on preview. xD
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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #86 on: December 01, 2011, 05:40:12 pm »

There is no point arguing about it, they both kill, and they both kill eachother. Some may choose to view it as black and white, but at its basest level it is no different. There is no reason to whine about them, because you yourself, just as I have, chosen to be a part of it, regardless of side. The only difference between PK and APK is the title, even I, a PK have gone out of my way to help a new player occasionally, other times I shot them. When I was low level and unaffiliated, some PK and APK players would help me, other times they would shoot me. Does it bother me? No. Especially not in a game as easy to get your stuff back as this. This isn't Diablo II hardcore mode guys. Death isn't that big of a deal.

As for Section 8, the only thing you can really say is any different, is takng over a guarded town. And really, you think thats not possible? In real life just because you are in a city with a police force does not mean you wont get robbed, and it doesn't mean you can't get killed. It happens all the time. Keeps people on their toes. Teaches them to not let their gaurd down. Its the wasteland, shit happens, respawn and get back out there.

Back when I was unaffiliated, I experienced my first encounter with section 8. I came into hub, and I died. That simple. It was no different than any other day, when I tried to sell something and a theif took all the money I made. I lost my stuff just like normal, and I respawned. No big deal. In fact, when I came in and saw everybody dead, I laughed a little. It was out of the ordinary, and that made it kind of amusing. Did I take it to heart? No. Why? Because I got my big boy pants on. Something some people who will go unnamed should try.

The second time I encountered them, they DIDN'T kill me. A PK group not killing a bluesuit? Guess what, it happens. And the third time I ran into them? I joined them. Since then, I've killed alot of people, and died just as much. I've helped alot of people, faction members and randoms alike. Thats right, sometimes I help randoms, and othertimes I shoot them. Sometimes I even shoot them, THEN help them. What do I see though? Nothing but unfounded and unintelligent remarks. Those who quite the game because of rage shouldn't have been playing to begin with. I believe fallout two had a mature rating, sure that means seventeen and older, but it also means mature, something some people lack. Mature is not 'conforming to what others view the game to be', nor is it 'acting a way deemed socially acceptable'. Maturity is knowing to not take things too seriously and doing what needs to be done. Since this is a game and nothing needs to be done, that only leaves one thing.

To conclude, people who whine and moan about people being immature, and playing the wrong way, making unfounded assumption on what type of people some are just because of the way they choose to play the game, are themselves, being immature. Something to think about my good sirs.
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gr1m099

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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #87 on: December 01, 2011, 05:40:51 pm »

Ok I took some time to calm down, took a day off from the game and feel much better. We all say stupid things and make asses of ourselves when we are raging and that's all what I'm really doing here is making an ass of myself.

And I am sure I have made somebody rage with my actions in this game. And isn't that what we generally like to do in this game, figure out ways to annoy each other and make each other rage?

I cannot be the only one who rages playing this game, I guess I am more vocal with my rage and tend to cuss and want to tell everybody off.

And I know Section 8, and have played with them, and their idea of fun is what people would associate with PK. But you guys are horrible at town controlling, and I've seen your members rage trying to take a town after getting attacked by 10+ people from enemy factions.

I tested AVV theory of being nice to people and being generous. I made a new character and made BB's to level and gave it to noobs in NCR. And this was the outcome. Because of a rollback the night before all my combat characters were in some random spot in broken hills, and I always log out of the game on world map or at a tent. So when the town came under attack I logged in and my character was spawned right in the middle of town where the enemy was standing and I got shot and looted and the stupid targeted shots was on while trying to fire a rocket at them in an attempt to escape, and that's what generally set me off to rage quitting when I wrote previous posts. This is the type of stupid shit that always happens to me in this game.

So no generally for me being nice helping people, giving free gear away and helping people make money does not bring any good luck what so ever.

Just needed a break from the game I am not quitting. I am here to stay and continue fighting the fight. There is nothing I can do to change that fact that faction fighting is unbalanced in numbers and well just have to deal with it. The wasteland is harsh and unfair. And I suppose it brings about realism, there is no team balance in war. And I could just go play fonline battlegrounds for a team balanced fight.
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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #88 on: December 01, 2011, 09:13:30 pm »


And I know Section 8, and have played with them, and their idea of fun is what people would associate with PK. But you guys are horrible at town controlling, and I've seen your members rage trying to take a town after getting attacked by 10+ people from enemy factions.


Of course we're bad at Town Control.  We rarely do it, and even that's a relatively new thing for us.  Who in their right mind would expect us to be good at it?  We haven't been doing it as often or as long as other groups, and they're good for a reason.  They've earned that skill fair and square, through experience.  That experience is what we don't have, and it's difficult to get when you rarely have the numbers online to even attempt it.  Primarily, we aren't a TC faction.  That should be apparent to anyone paying attention. 

Also, I'm sure you've seen some of us rage at stuff.  I'm not speaking for all of Section 8, just myself.  We have all sorts of guys, just like any other group of people... and some of them rage.



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Re: Philosphy of PK
« Reply #89 on: December 01, 2011, 09:48:05 pm »

And somebody was checking the area to kill players...seriously, there are thousands merchants in the game, why u need to go so far just to sell smgs ?!?!? pffff.
That's not going far, I was right in the area.  I set my tent up near there for hunting SF caravan.  And for a few weeks I was able to hop into commercial row and sell a few SMG's.  I like having lots of options for selling since frequently the merchants are either out of caps or have very few (the ones that pay good for smg's that is).
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