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[Red]

Hello! So, so far I'm having a great time with FOnline 2238, though it's hard really get dedicated knowing a wipe is right around the corner. Still, I'm enjoying myself!

The one thing that's really grinding my gears is the bartering timer. I know it get's better if you put points into barter, but as it stands it feels like such a tedious bore.

Any decent merchant has a huge list of goods to sell. Going through that list, searching after decent gear, decent deterioration levels, calculating how many BB's you need to meet the price the seller asks for... it's just really annoying having the window close in the middle of that, having to do all the scrolling and calculating again.

I understand that it's meant to keep players from hogging the merchants, but I swear that I spent 10 X more time infront of the merchant trying to get and sell the goods I wanted than it would have taken me if I just had a decent amount of time very first instance I tried to barter.

I suggest a hefty upgrade, or patching the way the selling between multiple players handles.

Thank you.

[Caviano]

Learn tactics to trade quickly and efficiently. Only the new wastelanders who haven't developed their tactics will complain about this.  Theres are filters on every vendor, and it is VERY possible to view EVERY single item on EVERY vendor with the time alotted.

Use your filter, and make your deals SWIFT.

[Lexx]

Barter- and speech-timer are being removed as soon as it is somehow possible in an acceptable way.

[Swinglinered]

Barter- and speech-timer are being removed as soon as it is somehow possible in an acceptable way.

What about Barter skill utility?

I know it helps in selling stuff that a vendor doesn't like.
Perhaps make all sell prices half of now, with Barter and Reputation filling in the rest.

[Lexx]

Barter skill has influence on buy / sell price. I see no need for an artifical limitation due to some timer. The original idea behind this was, so people don't camp on NPCs. But the reality is: Everyone who would do that, would get robbed or somehow killed anyway, even in guarded towns. There still will be a timeout, just in case. But no 20 seconds stuff.

Also I always hated this "you are ugly and unskilled, trader doesn't want to waste time on you!"-argument. It's very silly and makes no sense-- if you would be so bad in trading, he would love to waste lots of time on you, as you bring him more money.

[Swinglinered]

Barter skill has influence on buy / sell price.

Seems to only be true in selling items that a trader does not favor.

All other prices are fixed.

[Michaelh139]

Seems to only be true in selling items that a trader does not favor.

All other prices are fixed.

Yes, say I go to buster and try to sell him a radio.

Buster doesn't deal in miscellaneous items, so he gives me a really shitty price at low barter like 67 caps.

with 100% barter per-say, I could sell radios to him for 200 caps instead.

However if i try to sell him a newly crafted 10mm pistol, and he wants it for 120 caps at low barter skill, having 100% barter skill does not affect this price at all, nor does 300%.