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[Jackall]

The real problem about this PVP-Ape thing is that for half of the community whoever does regular TC/PVP/Reno or any other *pew pew* action is a PVP-Ape for sure.

If there would be any real and decent RP going on, I bet you would see quite many of those you call "person who's absolutely not interested in roleplaying, but in PvP fights and tree controll.".

What I am saying is that for the logic of 90% of the server population there are not people who are involved both in serious-PVP and RP, but only PVP-Apes at one side, roleplayer in the opposite and trolls standing in the middle harshing the day to both of them.

[Eternauta]

A thousand times said: Roleplaying is hard in 2238.

But there is something that helps me keep some hope:

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1598/screen08022011224511.jpg

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8532/screen08022011225407.jpg

Yes, we all know what happened to the WWP project, and the actual discussion in Golgotha was more about metagaming, but I never thought so many "PvP Apes" would actually meet in a place like Golgotha, to talk about a diplomatic agreement. One would think they'd go "lolo n00b, that's what IRC/Mumble is for", but no, they met ingame and .eshaked hands.

That's imho an important step.

[Grommok]

That's imho an important step.

I agree totally. Think if there werent any IRC, all agreement and commerce would be like this, actually creating an in-game economy maybe.

[Reiniat]

That's imho an important step.

If it was true RP then one of the faction must backstab the other. does that happen?
we are in Fallout world, dont forget it. Acatempan hugs never go that far

[Roin]

Always roleplay "In character." none of that pre-scripted stuff like in a manuscript, whatever the world throws at you, even unconsciousness [Death]...

Always roleplay your S.P.E.C.I.A.L.S, even while under the influence of drugs...
Can't have a person with 1 in intelligence running around speaking very rhetorically, perhaps highest mouns and groans and body langauge.
 
Everything in one character, and only one character. That I cannot craft I purchase at merchants-NPC's, or very rarely occasionally a player.

Roin.

[OskaRus]

I think that playing SPECIAL is silly but fun. xD Real wasteland roleplay can hardle be achieved in PvP game. As my friend once said: "RP in postapocalyptic world is just being you but in rugs, dust, hungry and threatened by everyone else." (We do live postapo larps in some abandonned military areas from time to time.)

[jonny rust]

being myself with elf ears in a fantasy RP is just as logical. Anytime you RP you can either; place yourself in an environment and react according to how you personally think you would in a given scenario, or you can place yourself in a fictitious environment AND adopt a foreign personality. Imo either one is fun and legitimate, the second is just a bit more 'advanced' i.e. more intensive and more of a commitment.

[ObliviDan]

Forgive me but I didn't read all the back posts because, frankly, I didn't feel like it. (Just being honest here) I don't really know all that much about the tech side of this game and I don't think I need to. (The magic screen box provides entertainment and I just go with it) But I would say that part of the fun of this game is playing a character who is very much unlike yourself. For example, I have a character who's basically a peaceful hippie monk type and I find it fun to stay "in character". The fact that it's a bit of a challenge makes it that much more rewarding. When faced with a troll that I'd just LOVE to tell off and shoot in the face (not necessarily in that order) it's fun to stick to that pusillanimous wimp personality and simply forgive them repeatedly until they get frustrated and leave. On the other hand, it is admittedly a blast to play yourself too. Since you can have alts you can go with whatever you like on that day. It's good to step out of it sometimes though... In base we're usually just us, discussing things that we would discuss. Yesterday it was our favorite lunchmeats I believe... Mine is pastrami by the way...

Point being, I think this world is flexible enough to have a bit for everyone and I can't wait to see what gets implemented next!

[Y0ssarian]

It was demoralizing to see the first response in parallel with GM and player interactions.

SIGH.

There's nothing better compared to passive roleplaying or when you can roleplay without the help of an adult and their baby milk bottle.

[Izual]

Yes, we all know what happened to the WWP project, and the actual discussion in Golgotha was more about metagaming, but I never thought so many "PvP Apes" would actually meet in a place like Golgotha, to talk about a diplomatic agreement.

Cool thing indeed, but that had already happened in the past - so this is not much of a step, unless FOnline history is a large circle?



It always happens in Reno though

[Eternauta]

Why did they meet there? What were they doing?

[Izual]

Back in 2008, it was when the Cajuns met Xell's gang to make some agreement about the control of areas of the game (TLA). They were the two most powerful teams on the server. There was tension in the air

[Eternauta]

I love the long line of guards outside!

[Jackall]

Back in 2008, it was when the Cajuns met Xell's gang to make some agreement about the control of areas of the game (TLA). They were the two most powerful teams on the server. There was tension in the air

It was TLA tho, this thread is about 2238

[Kilgore]

There was foundation of North Alliance in Sierra Army Depot somewhere in November or December 2009, with more than 40 people involved, where four gangs forged an alliance in order to break BBS supremacy. I'm sure someone has screenshots of it, I'm too lazy to look for it.

Earlier in September 2009 (barely few weeks after opening 2238) we (BBS) declared war on VSB also in game (Broken Hills), not on irc/forum/TS, and definitely not via the exchange of bullets - though the earlier random skirmish was the reason.

I'm sure that many of such acts happened before Golgotha meeting, just not everybody knows about it.