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Cold_Fusion:

--- Quote from: Crazy on September 26, 2011, 09:53:39 AM ---Second, it may surprise you, but some PvP apes also do RP.

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If RPing is typing *shits in mouth* over a corpse...

Crazy:

--- Quote from: Cold_Fusion on September 26, 2011, 12:05:47 PM ---If RPing is typing *shits in mouth* over a corpse...

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Almost never seen that from a true PvP guy, people doing this are usually shitty random PKs with low tier stuff (high tier if they are in good number, it makes them confident), shitty builds and bad skill, that you only see in TC when big alliance accepting pretty much everyone are made.

headshot:
Oh Crazy, Crazy...
"PvP Ape" is term which refers to person who's absolutely not interested in roleplaying, but in PvP fights and tree controll. You said something like "Adolf Hitler wasn't nazi". Killing people and shouting "It's for the Great Justice" or whatever you shouting then (put your favourite quote) isn't RP yet. Low tier stuff PvP is imho rather trolling than any reasonable attempt to RP. You might have whole community behind ya, thousands of fan art drawings but still it will be not a role play.  Roleplay is that, what you'd surely call "drinking e-beer" or "saying shits like Hello, Wastelander". Yes. Fight is only the little part, even in post nuclear universe. PK/APK bullshits won't help you to make RP on 2238 server. Hardcore roleplay isn't possible here, for example because of respawns. You see Ed. Ed's dead.. oh look mighty invisible farmers from Modoc took him and reconstructed his body and jump suit. But although this, what naysayers would say, some Role Play is possible, Look at Jovanka's dominant doctor char. ;) RPing in public places is hard, almost impossible, and also in case of non-guarded places it have to be combined with PvP (unfortunately) to satisfy all. Examples? Not so long ago, Sarmatians held Den, the area next to Metzger's building was guarded by them, and each "guard" wasn't just another PvP ape who says "Imma guard, imma shoot pk, hurr!"  but tried to play some roles when town was particulary safe. So as you see, everything depends of people, their goals and motivation level.

Surf:
Agreed with every word you've said there, headshot. A good post.

Crazy:

--- Quote from: headshot on September 26, 2011, 04:09:38 PM ---Oh Crazy, Crazy...
"PvP Ape" is term which refers to person who's absolutely not interested in roleplaying, but in PvP fights and tree controll.
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We should write the exact definition on the wiki.


--- Quote from: headshot on September 26, 2011, 04:09:38 PM --- You said something like "Adolf Hitler wasn't nazi". Killing people and shouting "It's for the Great Justice" or whatever you shouting then (put your favourite quote) isn't RP yet.
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I agree it's a combat taunt more than true RP. Still, it's a RP combat taunt, as a VC NPC could shout "Vault city will prevail!", and very different (from my point of view) from "I p0WN YA NO0B!1!".
It's exactly what my character would shout in combat, so, though primitive, it's still kinda RP.


--- Quote from: headshot on September 26, 2011, 04:09:38 PM ---Roleplay is that, what you'd surely call "drinking e-beer" or "saying shits like Hello, Wastelander".
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I do salute people I met. Though I use more the word "civilian". And for me, this still a bit limited RP. RP become really interesting when you start to tell your stories of what happened IG, when you debate of these actions, when you racket people...


--- Quote from: headshot on September 26, 2011, 04:09:38 PM ---Yes. Fight is only the little part, even in post nuclear universe. PK/APK bullshits won't help you to make RP on 2238 server.
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I do agree on that, and it's why TTTLA always refused to say that we are "APK". Though if you shoot on sight, obviously, not much RP is possible.


--- Quote from: headshot on September 26, 2011, 04:09:38 PM --- RPing in public places is hard, almost impossible, and also in case of non-guarded places it have to be combined with PvP (unfortunately) to satisfy all.
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Why unfortunately? It's what make all the taste of it.


--- Quote from: headshot on September 26, 2011, 04:09:38 PM ---Examples? Not so long ago, Sarmatians held Den, the area next to Metzger's building was guarded by them, and each "guard" wasn't just another PvP ape who says "Imma guard, imma shoot pk, hurr!"  but tried to play some roles when town was particulary safe. So as you see, everything depends of people, their goals and motivation level.

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I am myself trying to act like my character when guarding a place. And so do many of my mates (special mention to Slaz, living proof that mixing RP and PvP is possible). Even when only half of the team is doing RP, as long the second half don't interfere, it works well.

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