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[Who]

Another silly tactic is to get next to someone, then shoot a guard, then the guard will burst the fuck out of both troll and victim

[Swinglinered]

Another silly tactic is to get next to someone, then shoot a guard, then the guard will burst the fuck out of both troll and victim

An oldie but a goodie.

It was better when you could get guards to splash each other with burst weapons, and their AI would go into a feedback loop.

Carnage!

[Crit.]

 You can chat, blah, blah, blah.

 On this thread, I've seen some trolling and griefing, and some of the comments to the topic, but I hope the situation might be resolved later on, in the future, I'm hoping.

[Wallace]

Well i got to say that several days ago i had a real blast! (both literally and not)

I went to NCR to roleplay a bit and talk to some people. Then i see someone doing something suspicious near me. Seconds after that i see me taking 288 damage!

Dang! No kind of armor would safe my life back there...
I dunno when explosives got so powerful but the way they are now they do need to be nerfed

[Crazy]

I went to NCR to roleplay a bit and talk to some people. Then i see someone doing something suspicious near me. Seconds after that i see me taking 288 damage!

Dang! No kind of armor would safe my life back there...

You're totally wrong. A BA for example, widely available, would reduce your 288 damage to 112 damage, which almost any char at lvl 21 would survive.

I dunno when explosives got so powerful but the way they are now they do need to be nerfed

I died because of it, NERF!

[Michaelh139]

Wallace, that was a dynamite bomb. That's 6 sticks of DYNAMITE. Those things especially at full skill + perks, can I believe, kill any player, in just about any kind of armor.  (kind of reasonable though.  6 sticks.)  Unless they're an absolute TANK.

Besides, suicide bombing is time-taking, that is, if your nothing but one of those alluh-akbar guys.  There are some... more professional bombers.  But they don't seem to play often.

[Ganado]

Oh please don't use realism as an argument. But, anyway, even with dedicated max skill, as Crazy said, I dont think I've ever seen it do over 150 damage to a person in BA anyway. Of course, the damage formula for Dynamite isn't certain, but it can't do 253 damage to a guy in 0% BA, I'm sure of that. Looking at this as use in PvP, not some grieving method, I've seen it used in PvP a couple times, but mostly just by dedicated tanks that spawn near mercs, or a group of people camping the spawn point.

You can chat, blah, blah, blah.

On this thread, I've seen some trolling and griefing, and some of the comments to the topic, but I hope the situation might be resolved later on, in the future, I'm hoping.

Well, if you actually did read it, there are plans from devs to make grieving via dynamite in guarded cities a lot more challenging. It's not a good idea to just be standing still in NCR with gear, anyway.

[Reiniat]

IN my very own point of see, Dynamites with enough perks and skill must make something like 1000dmg. why? because then only weak players, n00bs or beginners will get annoyed by dynamite, Big gang members and Rich guys (wich means almost everyone now, but im talking about after wipe) are able to survive, the result is NCR full of high tier armored guys talking about TC and begginers evading cityes (after wipe).

Lets say it this way: Dinamite is like death she doesnt cares if you are rich or poor, n00b or PRO.

[Grommok]

Wallace, that was a dynamite bomb. That's 6 sticks of DYNAMITE.

Quite deadly uh?

Looking at this as use in PvP, not some grieving method, I've seen it used in PvP a couple times, but mostly just by dedicated tanks that spawn near mercs, or a group of people camping the spawn point.

Bah, as far i know, (personally i havent took place in any "serious" PvP, only a few minor battles around, no TC and stuff), Dynamite is used almost only for Suicide Bombing in cities/around. I NEVER heard of someone using it seriously as a PvP tool/weapon.

[Swinglinered]

I have a 300 Traps character.
With Demolition Expert.

It is an incredible pain in the ass to level a character like that.

With the max skill and Demo Expert, damage is 360. (Traps skill plus 20% for Demo Expert)

With 40% DR from BA (45% for CA mk2) you get 144 point reduction.

So you take 216, minus whatever reduction you may get from Toughness perk.

This is point blank blast damage- it goes down with distance, it appears.

This is FAR more damage than the average bomber can ever hope to inflict, and still it will not kill the heaviest of the tanks.

No point in nerfing something that can only be achieved under the most extreme circumstances, and even then can still be ressisted.

[Grzesiu]

Thougness dont give a shit about explosion dmg And it deal same dmg on every hex blast dmg what make

[Swinglinered]

Correction: max seems to be 330 not 360.

So even easier to survive.

[Johnnybravo]

Correction: max seems to be 330 not 360.

So even easier to survive.

so plant it twice, or just put it in someone's inventory. It *HAS* some uses in PvP like blowing up doors, but it is heavily situational.

[Aquare]

Can you plant 2 dynamites to explode at the same time and a damage will be fused? Never tested it very precisely, but always thought it doesn't cumulate.

[Flick]

You can set a bomb with timer 3 sec then another with timer 2 sec, I killed a guy with russian name wearing a ba today at Ncr this way, it is not so easy because first explosion could push him away so the second explosion should be very soon