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[Rain]

Thanks for your answers.

I want to say I came across this "Oni Akuma" again, he is wandering a lot near the hub.
He told me "do you want to die again?", then proceeded to punch me, and guards nearby didn't even attacked him.
Another guy nearby killed me and nobody moved. WHAT THE HELL?


About finding "allies", how do I find trusty players? I'm in east canada, how to find people there?

2 possibilities...you are unprotected for doing,maybe even for mistake,something wrong.Or the guys had extremely high reputation there so they could do whatever fuck they wanted...but this is very,very unlikely.


So i assume you were unpro..got some ''YOU CAUSED PROBLEM IN THIS TOWN AND GUARDS WILL NOT PROTECT YOU'' stuff in your message window..?Don t worry,after dying you return protected once again.


Just behave!

[Stampedo]

Well, that's true, but only French Canadians from Quebec, because we are a french speaking faction.

Comment rejoindre votre faction? C'est frustrant de roamer tout seul et de se faire descendre par des opportunistes...

2 possibilities...you are unprotected for doing,maybe even for mistake,something wrong.Or the guys had extremely high reputation there so they could do whatever fuck they wanted...but this is very,very unlikely.


So i assume you were unpro..got some ''YOU CAUSED PROBLEM IN THIS TOWN AND GUARDS WILL NOT PROTECT YOU'' stuff in your message window..?Don t worry,after dying you return protected once again.


Just behave!

I did "nothing". I don't understand. I was in "the hub" near the bank.
This guy is visiting towns without his equipment. When he backstabbed me he had high end gear...

Seriously, if you have a list of PKer, add "Oni Akuma" and "The second" (they are friends because he killed me too).

[SEGA_RUS]

yeah yeah yeah
APK patrols with m72 and 9999 hp in APAMK2
red nicknames if someone killed you
put guards in all locations
no full drop
APK guards on all random encounters
something else?

[Rain]

Comment rejoindre votre faction? C'est frustrant de roamer tout seul et de se faire descendre par des opportunistes...

I did "nothing". I don't understand. I was in "the hub" near the bank.
This guy is visiting towns without his equipment. When he backstabbed me he had high end gear...

Seriously, if you have a list of PKer, add "Oni Akuma" and "The second" (they are friends because he killed me too).

LOL the second is one of my men,we are apk,i seriously doubt he killed you.Seriously.Maybe you trolled-stole-blocked path before,that would explain.

[Senrain]

Getting the Brahmin hides when you first start out is the hardest part, after that things get ALOT easier.

There are alot of PKs out that will kill you without a second thought, including me.

[snailbeast]

LOL the second is one of my men,we are apk,i seriously doubt he killed you.Seriously.Maybe you trolled-stole-blocked path before,that would explain.

Have seen something non-APK-looking from The second. Can`t call him APK.
Don`t remember what though.

yeah yeah yeah
APK patrols with m72 and 9999 hp in APAMK2
red nicknames if someone killed you
put guards in all locations
no full drop
APK guards on all random encounters
something else?

you forgot of our favorite "Win this game" button... How dare you?

[Uno]

Quite honestly, in regards to this question I have the opposite happen to me.
I spent ages turning 27 Xander Root into 68 (or something) Healing Bags, only to randomly enter some guys encounter, where he kills me.

Annoyingly enough, this sort of shit only seems to happen shortly after I make my first weapon. Which is a fucking irritating process to have to continually repeat every 5 minutes.

I don't think anti-PK parties would solve anything, in my honest opinion I think there should be 2 different servers, 1 server for peaceful Trading, Partying, etc. and the other one for PvP. Because I'm sick of being killed by people I haven't even met before, and the only reason they kill me is because they're a fucking douchebag who can't be fucked getting the resources themselves.

[набегат]

OK
Started playing today. Died like 50 times before understanding how to play this game.
Finally after a big bunch of hours, I was able to gather good equipment and caps.

I was hunting brahmins out of the hub.

I had like 6 hides, almost enough for a tent. (god it's hard to get those)

New encounter, lots of geckos, dogs and brahmins. Nice. Starting the fight, almost done.
Then suddenly, coming from nowhere, a motherfucker shoot me in the back and loots EVERYTHING I had gathered for hours.

Where did this asshole come from? How???

I'm so fuckin frustrated, I can't even take my revenge.

Hello

Don't be frustrated, learn to play.

If u have hard time getting 10 bramin hides, thats probably cause your build is not adapted to survive in wastland.

why dont you try to think about a good build with this planner: http://www.nitue.net/fcp/

If u having hard time getting gear, why dont u create a hand to hand character? its not the most effective in high level pvp, but at least, u'll understand how the game works.

Don't call people "mutherfuckers" just because they killed u. This is a wastland, and sometimes u need to kill in order to survive and prospere. That what makes the game fun - constant risk.

I was very frustraded in the beginning, but now i can easily create a small gunner from a scratch and have a tent full of ammo in a day.

Courage. Si tu arrivera de passer le cap de la frustration, tu poura bien profiter de ce jeu et avoir ta vengence sur les pk.

P.s. jen suis un

[Lipa-junior]

He can call him whatever he wants if he killed him. The PK has a choice, he can grind/collect items in the more gentle way. If he chooses to kill other players instead, he deserves to be insulted.

But I agree, that this game has nothing to offer, other than this PvP and atmosphere of constant danger. Removing them from Fonline would make the game completely boring and pointless.

The beggining is always hard. Build the tent, get a weapon, find some isolated place and grind up there. Don't hunt near cities, especially Hub/NCR. And San Francisco.  Near the last one you're almost guaranteed to encounter some pk-faggot. Try to kill anyone who isn't answering to your questions. If he doesn't answer, he's most probably a PK.

[Stampedo]

LOL the second is one of my men,we are apk,i seriously doubt he killed you.Seriously.Maybe you trolled-stole-blocked path before,that would explain.

Nah. "Oni Akuma" just said I was a stealer (which is false), then "the second" attacked me without further reason and killed me. I even thought they were both friends.
Tell your pal to stop being so naive.

Don't call people "mutherfuckers" just because they killed u. This is a wastland, and sometimes u need to kill in order to survive and prospere. That what makes the game fun - constant risk.

I was very frustraded in the beginning, but now i can easily create a small gunner from a scratch and have a tent full of ammo in a day.

Courage. Si tu arrivera de passer le cap de la frustration, tu poura bien profiter de ce jeu et avoir ta vengence sur les pk.

P.s. jen suis un

Actually, this whole game is a succession of frustrating experiences, and you learn it the hard way.

PS: Tu es un quoi? Un PK?

He can call him whatever he wants if he killed him. The PK has a choice, he can grind/collect items in the more gentle way. If he chooses to kill other players instead, he deserves to be insulted.

But I agree, that this game has nothing to offer, other than this PvP and atmosphere of constant danger. Removing them from Fonline would make the game completely boring and pointless.

The beggining is always hard. Build the tent, get a weapon, find some isolated place and grind up there. Don't hunt near cities, especially Hub/NCR. And San Francisco.  Near the last one you're almost guaranteed to encounter some pk-faggot. Try to kill anyone who isn't answering to your questions. If he doesn't answer, he's most probably a PK.

I agree with your analyzis. Fonline has a strong atmosphere, but some gameplay mechanics are poorly balanced/thought out and results into a pointless experience, unless you decide to spend a huge amount of time into it.

This is clearly not user-friendly and I'm often wondering "why the fuck am I playing this shit?".
You can keep the hardcore aspect with smarter mechanics. Anyway, this is not the point here.

[Swinglinered]

I just find the mechanics pitiless:
- the LOS is so reduced that I couldnt even see he was there before seeing my character gettin torn apart.
- no warning message like "A stranger is in the area" or something. It's not gamebreaking, it will just give less the sensation of an asshole popping out of nowhere in your back.

LOS:
Based on direction you are facing and Perception.
What is your PE score?

"Stranger in the area":
The warning would imply magic, or telepathy.

Yes, PKs are very annoying.

Also:
Guards in encounters don't have same AI as guards in towns.

If attacked in a town and guards do nothing, they may have Idolized status or you blocked a door or failed a steal.

Maybe there is some other bug/sploit involved.

[jonny rust]

my only advice to you is this:

Since the waste is fairly unpredictable (especially when hunting near southern towns) it's best not to keep anything you don't want to lose on your person unless absolutely necessary.

Since you don't yet have a tent (or maybe you do by this stage) you will need to find hiding spots. 

Yes, it sounds risky but it doesn't need to be. Hiding can be an art.

The bet way to hide things is to find an object, such as a table, which can NOT BE SEEN THROUGH. Drop your things behind it. There will be no way to see or click on these things now and the only way to retrieve them will be to stand on the same spot and hit the G key (the hot key for picking things up). The only way someone will be able to find your things is to know they are there which means you told them or they saw you hide them (be careful of that) or they are randomly checking behind objects for things they can not see which is unlikely. I have hidden things in shops for as long as a week and have had them waiting for me at the end. Think of it as hiding in plain sight... or not.

So when you start to accumulate hides store them in secret stash spots, perhaps even across a few spots (eggs in different baskets) until you get all 10.

My other suggestion would be to sell sell sell and bank the caps instead except that last time I played the economy was shit and your probably better off stashing your caps as well.

hope that helps and good luck 

[Gaizk]

This thread has been getting an awfully high amount of attention

Anyhow, Pkers make the game more interesting, but reading the thread of the game and seeing how you called someone a PK in spite you being new makes me think youre not as new as you show yourself to be

Back to the thread. Pkers do make the game more interesting, however Assholes that randomly kill on low level areas are one of the more frustrating game mechanics I have ever seen on my life. IT sucks this game is a troll game for trolls, and you are on the exact part of the learning curve to get owned mercilessly by it.

I only wish you luck getting farther into the game, but I wont blame you if you decide to quit.

[Swinglinered]

Pkers do make the game more interesting, however Assholes that randomly kill on low level areas are one of the more frustrating game mechanics I have ever seen on my life. IT sucks this game is a troll game for trolls, and you are on the exact part of the learning curve to get owned mercilessly by it.

I only wish you luck getting farther into the game, but I wont blame you if you decide to quit.

[Slaver Snipe]

The EVE line in the graph made me laugh thanks