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Drugless Leader
« on: August 11, 2011, 12:21:14 am »

Hi everyone,i was thinking about building a leader char with no compromises towards drugs...(so basically 9 ch and magnetic personality..)

I just don t get how to make him a decent fighter,any suggestion..?
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Re: Drugless Leader
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2011, 12:30:39 am »

>leader char
>with no compromises towards drugs
>decent fighter


You can't.
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Re: Drugless Leader
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2011, 12:36:10 am »

>leader char
>with no compromises towards drugs
>decent fighter


You can't.

I suspected that,after so much trial and error..having an experienced player confirm that helped a lot,thanks.

If i sacrifice perception(let s say i pick 4),would i be able to compensate it with extreme marksman skill..?
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2011, 12:40:26 am »

I have one.  it's a sg burster, a as you said "DECENT" fighter.  Drugs are not necessary.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/2d71d2144443003
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Re: Drugless Leader
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2011, 12:53:54 am »


I have one.  it's a sg burster, a as you said "DECENT" fighter.  Drugs are not necessary.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/2d71d2144443003


Not bad,i guess i will drop his str by 1 and stick with plasma,thank you.


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Re: Drugless Leader
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2011, 01:03:24 am »


Not bad,i guess i will drop his str by 1 and stick with plasma,thank you.
I don't recommend EW pistoleers.  They are only good against leather armor and below otherwise they do very very little damage. (That is if you occassionally use laser).  What works for everything is bursting with SG, particularly an assault rifle with AP ammo.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2011, 01:11:13 am »

I don't recommend EW pistoleers.  They are only good against leather armor and below otherwise they do very very little damage. (That is if you occassionally use laser).  What works for everything is bursting with SG, particularly an assault rifle with AP ammo.

Depends, if you do aimed shot, EW pistols are great. And well, I wouldn't call that a "decent" fighter, but well, you are able to shoot ;p
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Re: Drugless Leader
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2011, 01:18:26 am »

Depends, if you do aimed shot, EW pistols are great. And well, I wouldn't call that a "decent" fighter, but well, you are able to shoot ;p
With only 6 luck your gonna have shit crits, with low intelligence and no extra accuracy from a rifle your gonna have horrible % to hit, and to top it off regular hits will be NOTHING continuosly.

it's simply not gonna work.  I suppose a dedicated magneto laser pistol leader build would work to an extent but poorly still.
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Re: Drugless Leader
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2011, 06:16:51 am »

Critical BG, High hp merc spawns with, good build without drugs

http://www.imagebam.com/image/ebe061143679251

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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2011, 06:33:45 am »

You know, stuff like jet, or other things like that are hard to get, but if you use mentats and beer you can shave off 3 skill points to any merc leader build, just beer (Which costs 100 caps for a +1 to CH) can save you 1 point.

Really, CH boosting drugs are the easiest to work in to a build for mercs, since mercs count as players for world map travel, and only need 2 CH when you buy them, and if you're dropping over 200k+, mentats should be easy to get.

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« Last Edit: August 12, 2011, 07:28:00 am by Ulrek »
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2011, 06:35:32 am »

If you use mentats and beer you can shave off 3 skill points to any merc leader build, just beer (Which costs 100 caps for a +1 to CH) can save you 1 point.

Really, CH boosting drugs are the easiest to work in to a build for mercs, since mercs count as players for world map travel, and only need 2 CH when you buy them, and if you're dropping over 200k+, mentats should be easy to get.

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You will screw up the boost to hp by 6 luck this way.  9 ch or nothing.
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Re: Drugless Leader
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2011, 07:29:46 am »

You will screw up the boost to hp by 6 luck this way.  9 ch or nothing.

Merc HP is based on luck, how exactly will it get screwed up by not having 9 CH without drugs? (You will have 9 CH when you buy your mercs w/drugs) unless the boost is based on CH and not luck, or both, either way, 9-10 luck = a good crit chance boost, unless luck is completely useless for mercs it's a good idea to take luck unless you're a slaver mainly.

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« Last Edit: August 12, 2011, 08:32:05 am by Ulrek »
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Re: Drugless Leader
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2011, 12:13:03 pm »

Even if default charisma of leader does make a little difference for mercenary hp (I haven't noticed that), I would still rather choose 3 extra SPECIAL points for the leader than a few extra hitpoints for mercs...
« Last Edit: August 12, 2011, 12:23:19 pm by JovankaB »
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Re: Drugless Leader
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2011, 03:15:22 pm »

Oh, since i forgot to mention this before...

If this is a slaver/loner build, forget the luck, and get 9 CH, the only character with a large boost from having high CH is a slaver, since it speeds up the slave farming quite a bit.

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« Last Edit: August 12, 2011, 03:45:23 pm by Ulrek »
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Re: Drugless Leader
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2011, 03:53:52 pm »



Decent HP
Decent Critical (best with .223 pistol)
Hard to level (1 str)
Mercs start with 185-230 HP
Horrible carry weight

oh yeah, no drugs either!  ;D (only drug i use with the build is cigs)
« Last Edit: August 12, 2011, 03:57:22 pm by McLooter »
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