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[Rake]

@Jescri,
No matter what amount of caps TTTLA possess, from every viewpoint especially an economical one the Khans are victorious in this operation. We had a real good time setting this up, in what way could playing the game be a waste of time? You do not really present any valid points at all, not because you are stupid but because one simply can't argue with fact. We didn't create this thread, it was created concerning one of our operations. Prepare for a new world order.

@John Porno,
Only a stupid fool would accept to conduct a discussion under the conditions of primal eristo-rethorics of the 'if you don't fight me, your arguments has no basis' type. No matter what the c88 and the TTTLA usually do, 19 bg mercs were apparently needed to free Gecko mine from the Khans - Army of Darkness, based on this FACT your accusations of lack of skill because mercs were used is TRUE for every member of the team that free'd Gecko aswell. I draw the conclusion that your not here to conduct a proper discussion and face facts with facts but rather to try to kick dirt on us and try to stain our radiating glory... the only logical explanation for you to do this is that you are very, very afraid of us. You should be, watch your back in the wastes

[Michaelh139]

All I see are a bunch of winners acting like losers.  Way to celebrate your victory tttla...

You beat 70 slaves all with guns, (Doesnt matter what kind that's still quite a force in such a position, critical hits and all) you used cars to cover yourselves from the insta kill on spawn, which shows a good use of resources, and yet you sit here raging at "The Khans" for having fun in what they do.

[Crazy]

*TTTLA used 20 (expensive) bg mercs reclaiming Gecko mine.

*TTTLA lost 19 (expensive) bg mercs to the Army of Darkness.

Wait wait wait what?

No matter what the c88 and the TTTLA usually do, 19 bg mercs were apparently needed to free Gecko mine from the Khans - Army of Darkness, based on this FACT your accusations of lack of skill because mercs were used is TRUE for every member of the team that free'd Gecko aswell.

What the fucking hell is this fact? We didn't use a single goddamn merc in this whole operation! Where does that come from? oO

No matter what amount of caps TTTLA possess, from every viewpoint especially an economical one the Khans are victorious in this operation.

We didn't lost anything and looted much...

All I see are a bunch of winners acting like losers.  Way to celebrate your victory tttla...

Actually, I just pointed out how lame this way to fight was, as it is far less fun than fighting against player, because someone said "noone should wish for better adversaries". It was only meant to convince them to stop using mercs/slaves and fight with us with their PvP char, because I do think everyone would have more fun like that.

[John Porno]

Rake, a fact is that The Khans never fought in Town Control, unlike Crazy 88. Thus, we are talking on whole different levels. And when I mean "skill", then I'm referring to player vs. player combat, not how to kill npcs in the best way as there is no skill needed in the first place.

I also just invited you guys to fight with anyone and you say we are afraid of you? That's one highschooler having his try at reverse-psychology right there.

I'm probably speaking for every pvp gang out there when I'm saying that the only thing we want is to see The Khans in Town Control. This is the one and only thing that matters on this server and if you don't prove yourself there you can just go back to killing bluesuits at the hub.

[Michaelh139]

I'm probably speaking for every pvp gang out there when I'm saying that the only thing we want is to see The Khans in Town Control. This is the one and only thing that matters on this server and if you don't prove yourself there you can just go back to killing bluesuits at the hub.

wow, you are asking people to prove themselves to you now?  Who are you to tell anyone they need to prove themselves to you?  You are god?  Mastermind of the world?  Who you are to say what matters? or anyone? You may think only tc matters but that doesn't mean everyone must follow in step. You seem to have a pretty big ego and I think you should get it checked out. 

It is clear The Khans are just trying to have fun their way, whether that involves gathering an army of slaves to capture an area and suck it of it's resources, sitting for 15 minutes in a town, or just randomly killing everyone they find.  You just can't seem to accept that.

[Surf]

I'm probably speaking for every pvp gang out there when I'm saying that the only thing we want is to see The Khans in Town Control. This is the one and only thing that matters on this server and if you don't prove yourself there you can just go back to killing bluesuits at the hub.

I must've missed a memo or something.

[John Porno]

clanmembers of tc gangs make up most of the community and in order to get yourself a name and respect you have to do tc.

sounds like grove street but this is basically what it comes down to.

Also, I rather sit 15 minutes in town control than sit for more than 5seconds in ncr.

And Michael, "Prove oneself" is another thing than "proving something to someone".

[Surf]

Since when are there only 2 extremes in the game? (TC/NCR)
There are (ok, were) quite a lot loonies playing just for fun, without actively engaging in any of the above mentionend.

[Luther Blissett]

I take new players hunting for Brahmin, sometimes go on little adventures travelling with strangers, helping them to get to other cities or get XP. Fight in PVE with small groups. Get shot to pieces by the occasional rocket launcher. Mine or gather every now and again and make some new ammo or armour.

Slow and easy-going fun. That keeps me happy. Never really gone into great detail with TC, PVP, RP or gang politics. Might do each again some point, but no hurry.

I might be in a minority, but I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[Crazy]

Slow and easy-going fun. That keeps me happy. Never really gone into great detail with TC, PVP, RP or gang politics. Might do each again some point, but no hurry.

New enemies are always welcome, but as you can see, you better be prepared for intensive trolling and flamewar if you involve into PvP 

[Luther Blissett]

Yes, I'm well aware of this

I'll wait until I've got a lot of time off work, as there's no point in trying to flame and troll back if I don't have time to do it properly

[TheGreenHand]

I'm probably speaking for every pvp gang out there when I'm saying that the only thing we want is to see The Khans in Town Control. This is the one and only thing that matters on this server and if you don't prove yourself there you can just go back to killing bluesuits at the hub.

I think what he's saying is that for a gang like The Khans who make outlandish claims as to their power, this is the only way they can truly prove it, so therefore the only thing that matters.
And it's a valid point. The only reputation they've gained has been as the guys who talk themselves up in their bases without leaving to do any kind of gang combat. So, essentially: circle jerks.
So until that changes, everything they say is really just hot air. I can sit in a safe and unknown location and tell everyone how awesome I am too. But I don't, because I'm not a douche.

[John Porno]

Since when are there only 2 extremes in the game? (TC/NCR)
There are (ok, were) quite a lot loonies playing just for fun, without actively engaging in any of the above mentionend.

My point is that most of these players are not really visible. Not everyone has a forum account and uses irc. The only time these players come in contact with anyone else is either when they hang around in hub/ncr or meet somebody in a random enc. The dialouge usually is limited to either "hi" "peace" or nothing, as we all can imagine. The game itself forces people into a paranoia which makes establishing contacts a lot harder as well.

The players that make this game are in the big gangs. This is not wow, there is no global chat. The only way to reach the whole server is to start a tc timer.

It's sad that wwp is gone as that was another opportunity for people to get involved.

In the end though all the big gangs are sitting on their irc/mumble/ts and wait for some action to start. You can't basically reach any tttla, hawk, vsb, c88, tsar, rouge, cs, pirate or any other tc gang by killing brahmin or hanging in ncr.

TC is this game's "late game" content and there is no way around getting into contact with the previously mentioned gangs if you want to participate.

The strange thing is that nobody inside the gangs would notice if suddenly all loners disappeared and vice versa. We have these two different "societies" on this server that don't really interfere with each other.

The only problem is that the khans are in the first group and try to get into the second, while already bragging about their nonexistent victories.

[Crappler]

Khans have tags, so we represent 24/7, which is why we get so much hate. and forum posts, despite being one of the newest gangs.
It's amazing how much more I hear about the Khans, than C88, or TTTLA. Infact, I rarely hear ANYTHING about the last two, unless its "c88 pwns you." or "come to x location and you'll get owned by c88." I believe the term is weak-sauce, which is why I'm a Khan, and gladly accept all those bursts to my face in NCR.

Secondly, I'd like to thank all these posts because more and more people come up to me and ask how to become a Khan every day.

[Senrain]

Indeed, The Khans have been around for around a month and yet we're quickly becoming one of the most infamous gangs in FOnline.

Just chilling in town many people will attempt to burst, rocket, and plant bombs on me. Believe me, I take those bursts like a champ, because what it all means is that we've definitely made our presence known in this game, a certain GM I won't name even going out of their way to find reasons to ban our members.

(Mengele is a common german name and I still think he should be unbanned.)