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RavenousRat:
--- Quote from: OskaRus on July 27, 2011, 04:11:51 PM ----Guards loots dead and shoot looters (prevention of sucuide ganking)
-Guards shoot everyone with weapon in active hand (prevention of sucuide ganking)
-Guards have zillion perception and shoots everyone who makes stealing action, even without any item stolen or planted (prevention of thieves)
-Lots of guards everywhere around for no blind spots
-Massive guard reinforcements in case of teir deaths
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Just make non-PvP location >_>
Or else I would kick thier eyes or explode with dynamite.
You can even do that without guards, without "Oh noes, I forgot to put my weapon to 2nd slot and died!", without "I accidentally looted my friend after some guy critically kicked him in the eyes, because he had 304985734 caps, but guards killed me!", without "Someone sitting in the tent with weapon and all guards are busy trying to get inside, but 10 mercs blocking doorway, and some trolls kicking everyone in the eyes, help!", etc.
--- Quote from: Senocular on July 27, 2011, 05:24:15 PM ---I'd say add computer in every city
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Many computers, many many many computers.
Or immortal-unpushable Auctioneer.
Because 1 terminal isn't enough, 10 mercs will surround it and noone would be able to reach it, especially if:
--- Quote from: OskaRus on July 27, 2011, 04:11:51 PM ----Guards loots dead and shoot looters (prevention of sucuide ganking)
-Guards shoot everyone with weapon in active hand (prevention of sucuide ganking)
-Guards have zillion perception and shoots everyone who makes stealing action, even without any item stolen or planted (prevention of thieves)
-Lots of guards everywhere around for no blind spots
-Massive guard reinforcements in case of teir deaths
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Noone would be able even to kill them!
So, if say exactly:
Auction place should have a door like Hinkley:
1) Mercs won't teleport with you.
2) While you're pressing dialogue button that teleports you to auction place, it performs check:
If you have dangerous items in your inventory (activated dynamite, ...brahmin shit), it says that you can't enter location and says you to gtfo.
If you have a weapon in your active slot, it says you to put it down, not teleports you, and then warns you to not show it inside.
If you have no weapon and no dangerous items, then he only warns you to not show weapon and behave you inside and teleports you inside.
3) Location should be with PvP disabled, dynamite should be impossible to be activated inside, or not-activated dynamite should be considered as dangerous on door check, but then you'll be unable to sell it on auction, what is really really sad, because dynamite is fun bringing item.
There must be more than 1 auctioners/terminals or whatever, because organized trolling still can make blocking them possible, but if there will be too much of sources to perform auction, it'll be harded.
Still they can push you from terminal/auctioner all the time. And that's the only problem. If you'll make pushing unable, then trolls will be unstopable, if you'll make pushing unable to talking/using terminal characters, then trolls will talk and block at the same time, if you'll put some cooldown on pushing, then victims of troll may suffer from it.
But I think pushing from terminal/NPC isn't a big problem, if only you'll gather an army of trolls to destroy server's economy by pushing everyone on auction.
Attacking/stealing should be simply disabled there instead of punishing offenders. Guards can be even not exist inside, as they no needed there.
Also I can understand attacking, but why stealing? Stealing is a skill, I think stealing should be allowed, simply it should be somehow balanced, not in auction area, but at all. Thieves are losing nothing, that's why everyone thinks they're griefers/trolls, if this skill will be changed somehow, then stealing shouldn't be blocked there, as you kill one of skills in game.
Reiniat:
--- Quote from: OskaRus on July 27, 2011, 04:11:51 PM ----Guards loots dead and shoot looters (prevention of sucuide ganking)
-Guards shoot everyone with weapon in active hand (prevention of sucuide ganking)
-Guards have zillion perception and shoots everyone who makes stealing action, even without any item stolen or planted (prevention of thieves)
-Lots of guards everywhere around for no blind spots
-Massive guard reinforcements in case of teir deaths
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you forgot:
-Guards in 75% of the hexs in the map
-Guards instakill everybody every 5min
-Guards have 99999,etc.HP Gauss Bozars and Power Armor mk5.3.2
Lol just disable pvp in the zone, you cant shot anything in the trading map
OskaRus:
--- Quote from: RavenousRat on July 28, 2011, 02:07:53 AM ---Just make non-PvP location >_>
So, if say exactly:
Auction place should have a door like Hinkley:
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All very valid points of pro troll. ;-) I think that just hinkley door is not enough. I think best would be if everyone upon entering location from map would be teleported to personal location with door to auction and exitgrid to prevent auction entrance camping.
RavenousRat:
Then just make access through terminals in PC and NPC faction bases. Noone will camp this terminal... in your base, and noone will camp exit grid in your base, if only you're a base raper who came to hostile base just to do auction.
Also auction can be abused by "teleporting" items to your friend from one part of California to another. Just set an item for 1 cap, and let your friend instantly buy it. The risk is very low, because only you two know about it and he could buy it in 1-2 seconds after you set it.
Edit:
And caps transaction. You have 50k caps, and don't want to travel with it through whole California because evil metal men with miniguns can kill you.
You set Scorpion tail for sale for 50k, and your friend/you/your alt buying it for 50k and those 50k teleporting from tail buyer to tail seller.
OskaRus:
I always thought about auction as single area on map. With deposit for item remaining in auction with minimum and maximum auction those transports wont be abuse but proper feature. ;-)
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