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[Rascal]

So with mercs you are harder to kill, but not impossible to kill.

not true - inside ur RT trap on desert U ARE IMPOSSIBLE to kill. This shit is like cheating and its ruining TB PvP.

[T-888]

Mercenary system is gonna be changed after wipe , so just wait and will see how this all turns out in the future.

[Akiko]

aForcefulThrust - do not tell a shit that when you loose merc "you receive a big hit" It is bullshit. Just make a merc trap for 30 minutes near to sf or other city with high player traffic and you will earn for 2 fully armed sqads of your mercs..

It is another topic about mercleadders traps. Few days ago i have been killed with other 4 friends near hub ( way between JT and hub). All of us  at 21 lvl. All of us with full hp (around 170-250). All of as drugged with psycho and wering BA's. We had entered a trap where was ONE player with 5 mercs with RL's. All of us have died in less than second ( before screen was even loaded, we did not saw even damage communicate at chat-log window cose we had beend killled before map loaded). Only what we saw was one russian player with 5 mercs gathering our stuff. And that for me is bug using.

Few months ago i made a similar topic about merc traps and players was telling me that merc leaders are weak (sic!) and i am f*** wrong to tell anything bad on em.. As i see next wipe won't change anything in this area. You still will be able to have 3 mercs so there will be still merc traps and still we will have a shit as we have now... No matter that they will have lower hp or cost of buying em will be higher. Still it will be bug cose noone will survive 3 rockets / shots at encounter on real time combat mode.

[Michaelh139]

not true - inside ur RT trap on desert U ARE IMPOSSIBLE to kill. This shit is like cheating and its ruining TB PvP.

Lol your nit-picking, he was clearly referring to the grid camp in towns.  He even said himself that RT camping on a Random Encounter map isn't a good feature.

Anyways, you can counter any mercenary camp with another merc squad or bring a couple of Tanks so you aren't insta killed, or if your a really good sneaker you can go in and 1hex burst the leader, or get right next to him and punch so him, so his BG(s) (rocket ,lsw, whatever) hits and kills him, therefore he loses his mercs, his stuff, AND he must disband his party, knowing very well they're still alive.

In other words, you need alts but that's what the game is about, and that there are several ways to counter a merc camp.

[The DUDE]

there is no place in the wasteland that is cool to die in from a merc trap........ People are pissed if its the waste or the towns or the mines........ so where exactly would people like them?

[aForcefulThrust]

not true - inside ur RT trap on desert U ARE IMPOSSIBLE to kill. This shit is like cheating and its ruining TB PvP.

Being trapped in a TB encounter, vs your 18ap TB powerbuild on a real time character is any better? I could argue that you're ruining real time PVP combat.

Akiko, I'm guessing you don't use mercs much... Full squad of EW girls is about 200k right now... BG mercs are even worse. plus another 45-50k for their plasma rifles. Good luck getting that amount of caps in 30 min of trapping with them. I'm lucky if i get that money back in the entire lifespan of my mercs, I pretty much always take a hit and come out way behind though.

Like michaelh said, If you get creative you can find a way to takeout mercs/leaders by yourself. Hell, I've armed a bomb and ran at the leader before, just to blow him up when he tries to loot my dead body!

[Johnnybravo]

Price shouldn't matter, this was not supposed to be a copycat mmo, and thus nobody would welcome it becoming grind for anything if money or resources. You want it, you get it, you work for it, but it should make some sense.
people can gtfo if they want to become 5 players by just grinding money all over.
Owning companions would better be major trade-of ofcourse, bigger than chosing a trait, but lesser than becoming a playstyle.

[zuhardu]

aForcefulThrust - do not tell a shit that when you loose merc "you receive a big hit" It is bullshit. Just make a merc trap for 30 minutes near to sf or other city with high player traffic and you will earn for 2 fully armed sqads of your mercs..

HAHAHA!!! When mutants where 500k I remember loosing in 20 mutants in 3 days, 15 due bugs, 5 in a fight in New Reno. That is 10 millions withouth counting the gear whitch was at least 200k. Don't get me wrong, I agree that mercs system ruined the game, I just don't like it when people talk about things that have no ideea about.

[Akiko]

zuhardu - if for you merc = ONLY mutant ok.

But I was writening about present situation not previos which is past and shoudn't been mentioned.
Presently you can buy simple bg merc for not a big amount of caps.
Don't get me wrong but i just do not like when people are talking about something which was long time ago ( you should also metion that in a time when one mutant cost was 500k people hadd been earning money for nothing at flc  - only gathering caps from interest rates) not a present situation.

aForcefulThrust - read my post again... I had written about merc traps in encounters.. Not grid spawn camp.. At merc trap encounter you have 0% chances -no matter what build you have.. If it is a town it is totally different case.

[KILL N DIE]

Akiko
No chance? Yeah maybe,but u should stop cry and buy some mercs:

Then u have a chance)

[mojuk]

You don't have a chance with those RL merc set to auto attack, when you enter encounter and only see explosion animation and your dead body, not even a single log entry about being hit, so clearly that's still loading screen abuse...

[Gaizk]

Ok took me a while but I just got hit by a merc camper, some guy that went by the nick of master king and camped with 4 plasma rifle mercs (piece of cake for my buddies if I find him again) Still, thing is tho, I got killed before my loading screen went in and I had 250 hp... so, to this day, is this still considered abuse? or is one of this mechanics that you just ought to deal with... Random sudden death out of the blue gg? 

[Gob]

I'm pretty gjllous about those guy's and the loot they got from New Reno.And yes killing all those mutant's is bad ass good job.I remember camping betweent JT and NCR.Some guy show up with highwaymen and some BG merc's all I did is walk around his car and shoot his merc's until they died and then I concentrated on the player . But I guess BG mercs are easy

And loading screen I don't think is abuse or bug.Is just the way it is.When you enter an area the game needs to load the map objects and items ecc The game has to do that.

[Perteks]

And loading screen I don't think is abuse or bug.Is just the way it is.When you enter an area the game needs to load the map objects and items ecc The game has to do that.

And you are dead before it load even without dmg show ? Yea sure its not bug ...

[Gaizk]

I like, actually I DISLIKE, how this thread gets no attention from any mods or developers, like they're trying to downplay the issue or just ignore the fact its there... It aint such a big deal in a unprotected town since youre there to kill or be killed at any rate, however just moving around the world map and then getting  inside an encounter on which you just die and someone  comes to loot of your corpse is the closest you can get to playing god mode in this game.

And some people defend the fact its an overly costly and time consuming thing to do, that can also be countered in a number of ways and that  it also hardly ever pays itself, well at any rate, taking al that into account  it still does seem like abusing a game mechanic and theres nothing to do about it

Im cool with burst - dynamite muhajidden, with thieves and and the like since you know its on crowded towns and you have a chance to adapt (I.E. not going to that a town) and im cool with places like Reno or klamath being warzones most of the time, or even the fact the town militia can kill you if commanded by their owners. I mean all of that IS COOL for the fact its limited on certain places of the game, which you can just avoid altogether , but its shitty when you just cant do a thing about it.