FO: Desert Europe

[White150]

ras and demonek. stop acting like spoiled kids and if you are going to do my own "fode" it will be big fail like fot.
please "skonczcie z porownywaniem kutasow i zacznijcie cos robic a nie jak dzieci" <- they are both from Poland so they will understand it

You are right, they have good game but they can't do anything because they still need people for "rpg solutions" lol :x Omg australia has bad maps, design but he makes game alone and do not cry. Lol if you cant make game alone join other dev team and make projects with him (australia?).

Kurwa ogarnijcie się bo robicie te gre od roku i nadal jej nie zrobicie z waszym podejsciem.

[JovankaB]

Open source mechanics/dialogs/quests is bad idea.

And why is that?

[T-888]

Clones, wannabes and tell me you will not just strip it for usable resources/scripts/solutions and never look at it again?

Ras is working on "old"
I am working on "new"

Fail.

[barter1113]

Lol but tactics was great and everyone want to have tactics animations, world map fight, faction wars, deposit stuff and FUN from gameplay. Xenom is the person who can fast introduce ideas from suggestions board but he can not write dialogs, not everyone could not do it, develop game is not only coders, there are many people like writers, map makers, story designers, game designers, testers. One person can not do this so? Open source is only his welfare because he gives you new game, new gameplay and new hope. 2238 never give you open source until no one play this old game. Fuck fonline because community is soooo small and stupid to change. Go play your cool servers and grumbling because update sucks. ;_;

[Skycast]

And why is that?

Hmm let me think, ah ok, if 2238 will publish sorces in 10 days will be 0 online on 2238. Oh let me think more, anyway in few month will be 0 online on 2238 because of 100500 rejected devs.

[Lexx]

And here I thought you would argue "because everyone would make their own server with minor changes to the ruleset." Then I would agree.

[White150]

Progress:

2006:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL2e77ZAGPk" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL2e77ZAGPk</a>

2007:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cz0TbUevB8" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cz0TbUevB8</a>


2008:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83a1eMamxfk" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83a1eMamxfk</a>

2009:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcdyRuNp8MQ" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcdyRuNp8MQ</a>

2010 (3D news):
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJV7q5W-JdU" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJV7q5W-JdU</a>

[wesan]

I do not think that this is topic about 2238, so stop it and focus on fode devs, For me like skycast open source dialogs/quests is bad idea and will just create bigger mess. You should better hire some good roleplay dudes for it.

[Kilgore]

Clones, wannabes and tell me you will not just strip it for usable resources/scripts/solutions and never look at it again?

It depends. If the game is playable, you can make something out of it, maybe even better than the original one. If it's unplayable, then yes, it would be just stripped for usable solutions.

And here I thought you would argue "because everyone would make their own server with minor changes to the ruleset." Then I would agree.

A good example of it is TLA. There are less (numerous clones with just few things changed) and more (like Requiem or TLA mk2) successful modifications.

There are various pros and cons of making source open, it should be left up to the developers if they want to publish it or not. After all, it's their "product".

[JovankaB]

I do not think that this is topic about 2238, so stop it and focus on fode devs, For me like skycast open source dialogs/quests is bad idea and will just create bigger mess. You should better hire some good roleplay dudes for it.

Open source doesn't mean write access to project repository for everyone.
How would it create "bigger mess"?

I see no cons for OS, unless you have weird ambition to be only server around
with the features you developed. Or if there are some big blunders in the code
that you don't want to show.

[wesan]

Open source doesn't mean write access to project repository for everyone.
How would it create "bigger mess"?

If they make it open source giving everyone access to svn and letting every commits with dialogs, quests then checking every one dialogline for bad things, stupid jokes, or just weak level will be worse than having 1-3 guys making quest and trusting them which is a lot better.

And why do you want everything open source so badly? Well except 2238 project ofcourse.

[JovankaB]

letting every commits with dialogs

Open source is not same as ability to commit to repository.

And why do you want everything open source so badly? Well except 2238 project of course.

I'm just stating my opinion that OS would be beneficial and not bad idea at all.
It doesn't mean that I'm going to go ask or bother anyone to release anything they made.

[wesan]

Open source is not same as ability to commit to repository.

Ok, tell me how you would let people throw quests and dialogs to the server, i mean why is open source needed for the operation if you wont commit/update? But find other idea?

I'm just stating my opinion that OS would be beneficial and not bad idea at all.
It doesn't mean that I'm going to go ask or bother anyone to release anything they made.

I am glad that you care about future of other projects, but if this is not bad idea at all, why would you in person show the power of it and make the 2238 open source? You won't because it is too good, and people won't help develop, will just make clones on same level which will be not fun for split players on almost same server with just the differences like one 2238 is hinkley big server another is full roleplay, that would just hurt the community, don't you think that could happen? and if this could happen with good 2238 server then what would happen with Fode-new which have alot of work made in graphics (i mean fode scenery, which are probably not stolen by anyone because having the files and adding the files is  one big difference) and Tactics critters with implemented positions?

[JovankaB]

I am glad that you care about future of other projects, but if this is not bad idea at all, why would you in person show the power of it and make the 2238 open source?

I'm not the author and like I said I'm not going to bother people about things which aren't my business.
I try to discuss OS in general and you try to make it some personal flamewar about specific dev teams.

I see no problem with "clones". There is plenty of TLA clones which stand empty and don't hurt anyone.

[wesan]

I try to discuss OS in general and you try to make it some personal flamewar about specific dev teams.

I am sorry it is not like i want to flame 2238, as i said before it is not topic about 2238, you can change 2238 in my post with another good server, Whoops we have none! thats why i only could use 2238 as example. I did not wanted to fell it like that for you, again i say sorry. Now reread my post without focusing  on 2338 with it please.

I see no problem with "clones". There is plenty of TLA clones which stand empty and don't hurt anyone.

Tla is just like server base, thats what i have not used it like example, what i am talking about it's about good original servers with own graphics, scripts and even new worldmap like fode is.