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[aForcefulThrust]

Does this perk work in game? It has a steep (10AG) requirement... Anyone use it successfully??

[Perteks]

for 100% nope better is hit to eyes than back

[aForcefulThrust]

Well if i hit you in eyes, from back, the dmg is still doubled?

[LagMaster]

you can't hit the eyes in the back

[aForcefulThrust]

What a joke of a perk.. now my hth guy sucks with 10 ag for nothing and a waisted perk! 

[LagMaster]

you need 10 AG and Bonus HtH atacks perk OR Action Boy perk to do piercing kick eye shots

[naossano]

This perk would be more interresting if :

- A little less damage. (X1,50 instead of X2)
- The ability to use it with EVERY weapons (and not only unarmed)

The main problem of that perk.
You need to come at sneak, and be very very close to the guy. (hitting him with you own hands)

So, even with 330% sneak, the skill is so nerfed, that the ennemy will see you from afar. You he will hit you before you get close, in 99% of the time. As he hit you, you get unsneak and can't silent death him. As you put a lot of skill point on sneak, you will suck when fighting the guy.

If you can shoot with a ranged weapon, you may have a chance to shoot the guy (on the back) before being unsneak. It's still would be hard, but the perk would still be related to a sneak fighter. (that really need fighting perk, dedicated to him, to balance the current shitty sneak skill)

I don't know for you, but the unarmed sneak on current cession seems totally unplayable.

[DocAN.]

Some changes incoming with wipe.

[Perteks]

Some serious bullshits

You dont need to be sneaked to get bonus dmg. x2 is very small specially about 10 ag what is very hard to get nice crit rate, because you will do gay dmg without crit to armored dude i will give like x4 dmg.
Sneak is not nerfed its too powerfull ;P you see dude from 10 hex with 10 pe if you stand front to him. How its not nerfed

Ability to use with all weapon, yea i wann see it most stupid suggestion ever

[naossano]

Did you ever played a sneak ?

Believe me, a empty (no inventory) max (330) sneak character, will be seen very far by snipers, with 12 perception.
When you see him and try to see his buddies (not far from the sniper), there is some chances to be seen, at least 40 hex away.

As for unsneak i invite you to check this
http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Silent_Death

As for the serious bullshits quote, i much believe i said something else. (you wouldn't answer is that so)

[Perteks]

Sure sure but true sad is that i 330 sneak cant be see from 40 hex or u just are unsneak

Ok that need sneak my bad ;p, but still its useless perk

[Gazzz]

Sure sure but true sad is that i 330 sneak cant be see from 40 hex or u just are unsneak

Ok that need sneak my bad ;p, but still its useless perk

Silent death is a total shit. It was a shit in f2 and its a shit in fonline. In the 1st case it was shit because of unstack with a critical damge (slayer perk and you dont have to take a SD perk)
In  the 2nd case its shit because of a useless of HtH sneaker-char.

[aForcefulThrust]

I built my character for it, thinking i could punch someone in the eyes from behind, doing a double critical. That would be badass, But instead I was hugely disappointed with this waisted perk. I guess now I will just await wipe and try HTH again after wipe.

I find sneak most useful vs BGers. I don't think sharpshooter helps detect sneak, so even if they have 12PE SS sniper, it's only 10 PE going towards detect sneak, right?

[Nexxos]

I don't think sharpshooter helps detect sneak, so even if they have 12PE SS sniper, it's only 10 PE going towards detect sneak, right?

It does help in detecting sneaks. A character with 12 perception can spot sneakers from quite far from front, and from other sides too.