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[jonny rust]

I have never used bonus ranged damage but am considering it so what does +2 to Ranged Damage really mean here?

[Crazy]

It's like a +2 at the min and the max of your weapon damage.

[jonny rust]

so it seems like a wasted perk unless this counts for each bullet in a burst...

[Crazy]

so it seems like a wasted perk unless this counts for each bullet in a burst...

Its does count for each bullet... Like stated in my previous pôst, +2 at min and max weapon damage, same for a DKS and an avenger, though it's obviously more usefull for avenger.

[LagMaster]

Johhny Rust, you know that this perks(LG too) are must haves for the BGner builds

[SEGA_RUS]

not nessesary to BG with LSW 

[jonny rust]

I never really make big gunners...

[jonny rust]

But in summation its most beneficial to bursters using weapons with large quantity bursts (lots'o'bullets per burst) right?
SG and BG alike

[Chrupek]

that this perk are must haves for the BGner builds

Well... not:]

Great perk for 3 burst SGers

[Rascal]

brd are very usefull for lsw too, it does higher dmg that avanger eitherway

[Solar]

brd are very usefull for lsw too, it does higher dmg that avanger eitherway

False

[Perteks]

Solar we dont talk about vs bluesuit

[Solar]

I can't be bothered going through it again, use the search function to see where I have told you all this before.

[SEGA_RUS]

differense in close with 2 brd vs 0 brd is 24 dmg on bluesut without toughness 

[RavenousRat]

Well, LSW without BRDs vs BA with x2 Toughness:
Base average damage: (22+37)/2 = 29.5;
DR/DT = 40%/8+10%/4=50%/12; because of .223 ammo 30%/12; because of piercing ammo stuff 10%/4
Damage per bullet: 29.5*0.9-4 = 22.25.

LSW with x2 BRD:
29.5+4 = 31.5.
31.5*0.9-4 = 24.35.

x2 BRD increases damage on 9.44% for LSW against BA with x2 Toughness.

Now simple vs BA without any Toughnesses and without BRD:
DR/DT = 40%/8, because of .223 ammo 20%/8, because of piercing 13.33%/2.66, I won't round up or down.
Damage per bullet: 29.5*0.866-2.66 = 22.887.

With x2 BRD against simple BA:
31.5*0.866-2.66 = 24.619.

x2 BRD increases damage on 7.57% for LSW against BA without Toughnesses.
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Now the same thing for avenger mini.
Without BRD and with x2 Toughness: 8-11 -> 9.5 avg damage. *2/3 ammo adj = 6.33;
50/12 - 35/0 = 15/12 /3 = 5/4.
6.33*0.95-4 = 2.0135.

With x2 BRD: 13.5*2/3=9.
9*0.95-4=4.55.

+125.97% damage, it's on 125.97-9.44=116.53% more than for LSW or x13.34 times more.

Without Toughness:
40/8 -35 = 5/8 /3 = 1.66/2.66
Without BRD:
6.33*0.9834-2.66 = 3.565.
With x2 BRD:
9*0.9834-2.66 = 6.19.
73.6%, what on 73.6-7.57=66.03% more, or x9.72 times more.

Average: (13.34+9.72)/2 = 11.53.

This way, x2 BRD is in 11.53 times better for avenger than for LSW!