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Lose XP for dying

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Crazy:
Already suggested. I don't think it's a good idea.

Grommok:
Well, i dont know if it is easy to do, but personally, as a 14-years-old kiddo i can tell you that loosing your items is enough for me. Even if i must admit is a good idea, there is enough PKing right now. Adding this would be like telling a PK:- Hey, kill me, so i will NEVER reach lvl (random number from 2 to 21)!-. I hope you understand my point of view.

PS: Sorry for any mispelling error, i'm Italian :P

Reiniat:

--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on May 22, 2011, 07:25:03 AM ---we already lose time (alot of it, ofc depending on our builds), stuff, patience (your meter till you ragequit ;>).  so no....  no.....  it's been suggested before anyways and was rejected methinks.  Mostly because newbies would never be able to make it in this game because of bad encounter design (which might be fixed sometime) a good example of which is the "Crazies" encounter where they can all immediately shot you to death (Because of massive crits) and kill you without a chance.

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--- Quote from: Reginmund on May 22, 2011, 06:19:53 AM ---Seems like a minor obstacle for big gangs and whatever alts they want to make, more detrimental to solo players but in effect it spices things up.

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Are you serious? or its only a way of protect your growing alts? in my personal case i lvl up a idiot char called Reiniat, my first one with a terrible 6,5,5,6,5,6 SPECIAL, i make the lvl 12 dying like 3 or four times, most by pks.
recently i create Black Tears, with that char i only die in cityes, like 7 or 8 times (maybe im famous and everyone wants to burst or blow me ;D) but i did never lose a pvp fight or die in the desert, not yet.
Lvl up isnt harsh, and it will damage lvl21 too, because you will lose 5% of 230,000XP each time you die

--- Quote from: Reginmund on May 22, 2011, 09:10:39 AM ---most logical approach is to drop it back to the min exp required for your level because it would probably be messy if you just leveled assigned new skillpoints and got new perk only to lose exp from death and get back to previous level. consequence here is debatable, should you simply lose exp or the skillpoints (or perk if applicable) as well as exp. alternatively should you just lose the exp but remain at the same level only now you just need to get more to make the next level.

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yes if you drop down a lvl you will have the lvl, but with a penalty, lets say -1 to all SPECIAL stats until you get enough xp to "reget" you lvl

--- Quote from: vedaras on May 22, 2011, 12:06:45 PM ---no, this would encourage people to pking even more i dont think this is needed. Also before we had diminishing exp and leveling up to 21 took much more time than now. Devs made it on purpose to level up so fast so i think this will stay.

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nah most of the pks kil for proof they can, this wil not change the pking, as i said before you only get a new reward for pk if you can see the pain of your victim, but its probably that you dont see it again, in the actual times pks kill weakeneds and little people, we dont care what is in your inventory, we will not care how many xp you lose.

vedaras:

--- Quote from: Reiniat on May 22, 2011, 03:24:24 PM ---
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pkers kill now and they will kill later. But for example i am antipker, and i meet another person, now i dont kill him, if i die i dont care. If i would meet the same person with a risk to die and lose exp, i would kill him only for the chance he has to kill me.

Reiniat:

--- Quote from: vedaras on May 22, 2011, 03:28:22 PM ---pkers kill now and they will kill later. But for example i am antipker, and i meet another person, now i dont kill him, if i die i dont care. If i would meet the same person with a risk to die and lose exp, i would kill him only for the chance he has to kill me.

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.....yes and no, i already meet a lot of guys more or equal powerful than me in encounters and they awesomly shot me down, first time it was against a rocketer, (you were hit by 89 points, that dude was critically ht in the eyes for 105 points, bypassing his armor, knocked down and knocked ou)t.
most of the guys will kill you now if you have a posibility of kill they, also most of the time is obvious who will win the battles and the potential loser will ask for mercy (PEACE) and if the enemy is equal or more powerful than you, i see battle.
But yes its a posibility, it depends of the players, it made me formule a question, if you are in the real postapocaliptic world and you find a guy in the desert that can potentially kill you, what you will do? ask for peace, shot first for be sure, solve the things with high speech, get a shot and die?

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