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[RavenousRat]

When someone die of critical hit, the effects of the critic aren't displayed. Doesn't mean it's not a bypass, simply not displayed. Or it would mean we got x10 multipliers...

Exactly +that's why most people never saw KOs with critical bursts, because the damage was so huge that target was dead. Dead people can't be bypassed, knocked downed or outed, because they're dead.

[vedaras]

im not talking about noob fight in turn based.

[Reiniat]

im my point of see statistics, calculations, and all that shit are in second plane in the battle
i use a triple burster and the first time i got o Hinkley i die like an idiot against a SG-sniper. After learn of that guy, i dont remember his name but thanks, i hardly lose a fight against critters builts with my triple burster.
Then i do a EW crippler, a pk built, able to double eyeshot. I go to hinkley and test it with Plasma Rifle (but the built is for pistols) against CA, results OP. then my enemyes begun to use Tesla, and i get killed like shit.

It is what i wanted all the time, if you think that the Plasma is OP, use a Tesla or MA.

And im sure all the guys thinking that Plasma is OP, are SG or BG users, and the guys thinking its fine or even UnderP are the plasma users. i dont know what that means, but im sure 

[Michaelh139]

It is what i wanted all the time, if you think that the Plasma is OP, use a Tesla or MA.

I don't see how metal armor helps with plasma....  only choices are combat armor+ or tesla but even with combat it is op and I have still seen people raped even with tesla on including myself.  Several times in a row.

And im sure all the guys thinking that Plasma is OP, are SG or BG users, and the guys thinking its fine or even UnderP are the plasma users. i dont know what that means, but im sure  

 I agree with this.  What it means is there IS an obvious unbalance here, and the plasma users just wanna make sure their guns don't get nerfed to shit.

[Reiniat]

I don't see how metal armor helps with plasma....  only choices are combat armor+ or tesla but even with combat it is op and I have still seen people raped even with tesla on including myself.  Several times in a row.

  I agree with this.  What it means is there IS an obvious unbalance here, and the plasma users just wanna make sure their guns don't get nerfed to shit.

1.- Yes you can die using Tesla against plasma, but is like die using a AS50 against a pistol in Bad Company: its posible but needs skills (human skills) luck, and a lot of different variations, it dont happen even the 15% of the fights.
2.-......Maybe, maybe dont, in my very personal point of see, and i use a SG triple burster, a Pistol EW crippler, a double Boomer, a HtH and a Critical Throwner, plasma IS only a little bit more powerful, laser is useless, but all that is inside a good balanced margin

As conclusion, if devs think plasma should be nerfed, yes do it, only a little bit, this is a Beta.....but if you get wrong dont make us suffer an entire wipe before of make another change, if changes are wrong, make another change in the moment, not wait until wipe.

[Sarakin]

Im for reducing bypasses to half of the DR and DT, but increasing chance of getting a bypass

[vedaras]

tesla armor is pretty hard to use now. Before some time it had specific build on guys with 2x toughness and 2x psycho, now tesla resists normal damage for too little to be used common

[Solar]

As part of the wipe I will be tweaking the armour values around a little bit. Tesla's normal resistance will be increased a bit in that.

It just needs me to have some free time - these new born sons do take quite a bit of time you know

As conclusion, if devs think plasma should be nerfed, yes do it, only a little bit, this is a Beta.....but if you get wrong dont make us suffer an entire wipe before of make another change, if changes are wrong, make another change in the moment, not wait until wipe.

All changes wait for the wipe, it is impossible to do any changes before that.

[LagMaster]

cuz next update=wipe

[Handyman]

Hail the wipe ! any rumors when it's coming ?

[Crazy]

any rumors when it's coming ?

Many say it is today. Some others are saying tomorrow. Few even say it was 2 days ago but noone noticed.

Most likely, it is soon.

[Rascal]

Harold Camping claims it gonna happend today at 18gmt+1

[manero]

Its not the plasma(which should be powerfull) problem but crit hits table. But i told it so many times that im not going to add anything more 

[Johnnybravo]

I'd love it being like Fallout Tactics where are no retarded 1 hex bursts or instakill criticals.
Yes, laser rifle can crit there up to 50 damage, which is like very good burst, but targeted shooting does not boost effects much.
(ofc, if you forget crazy stuff like 50cal machinegun)

As part of the wipe I will be tweaking the armour values around a little bit. Tesla's normal resistance will be increased a bit in that.

Let's hope that does not mean we'll be running with 90% resistances to anything.

Im for reducing bypasses to half of the DR and DT, but increasing chance of getting a bypass

It's not that bad, better if aimed shots were ment for effect not damage, currently it just makes 60% skill penalty to single shots, nothing more.

[LagMaster]

wiep it be at 1st of July