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knockdown and knockout
Attero:
numbers doesnt match ...case 10luck 3x more crit , finease => 60% +15% +10 +10% = 95% crit chance
Shooting at an Endurance 6 target should have a knockout chance of ~35.5% per shot, knockdown is additional chance of ~28.32%
makes
37.4% chances for KO and 29.8% for KD
now for 6 luck = > (50+6*5)*60/100 % = 48% and and 6% base crit makes = 54% crit chances so :
Shooting at an Endurance 6 target should have a knockout chance of ~24.33% per shot, knockdown is additional chance of ~19.42%
becomes:
45% for KO and 35.9% for KD
those numbers should be same and arnt - this data is inaccurate
also for low END KO chances < KD chances
for better end KO chances > KD chances .......... hell why ? both number change for higher end why KO suffer lesser penalty ? makes no sense as its stronger effect...
Solar:
At first glance the Luck 6 values don't even agree with myself ::)
I'll have to check them tomorrow and see wtf I've done.
Solar:
First, for some reason I left luck at 10, rather than 6 (I imagine I set target luck to 6, worrying how you can make a mistake with only 3 variables)
--- Quote ---A head shot with just Luck 6, with better crits ...
Shooting at an Endurance 1 target should have a knockout chance of ~26.29% per shot, knockdown is additional chance of ~32.36%
Shooting at an Endurance 6 target should have a knockout chance of ~24.33% per shot, knockdown is additional chance of ~19.42%
--- End quote ---
Should read as:
A head shot with just Luck 6, with better crits ...
Shooting at an Endurance 1 target should have a knockout chance of ~21% per shot, knockdown is additional chance of ~25.23%
Shooting at an Endurance 6 target should have a knockout chance of ~15.14% per shot, knockdown is additional chance of ~18.98%
(corrected)
Second, these are head shots, so:
--- Quote ---now for 6 luck = > (50+6*5)*60/100 % = 48% and and 6% base crit makes = 54% crit chances so
--- End quote ---
Is wrong, and should be 40/60, as 60 is for eyes, 40 is for the head. You also have to add on the bonus for ... erm, hitting? ... which leaves you at 42.5% crit chance for luck 6 head shot.
Attero:
ok sorry i assumed eye shot now i see you idd said head shot ..so its 40% ..
A head shot, with 3*more criticals, finesse, 10 Luck, better criticals ...
Shooting at an Endurance 6 target should have a knockout chance of ~35.5% per shot, knockdown is additional chance of ~28.32%
->
crit chance is 40+10+15+1 = 75%
after reversing at target with 6 endurance
47.3% for KO and 37.76 for KD....
additional does it mean its total of 85% for either of those two to proc ? dont you think thats it a bit too much ?
i mean i know that eye shot cannot be done on combat armor neither when target is facing other way but still its 95% crit for eye shot...
0.95*0.95*0.85 = 76% ... 76% to get owned if you let enemy eye shot you is kinda f-ed...
question :
am i right how those chances sum ?
what are the KD / Ko chances for 9/10 END ?
agai nstonewall ..please dig out some info about it ;]
Solar:
Bah, now I've used an old version to correct the first error. I had indeed left it as Luck 10 originally, so will correct the earlier posts to reflect the correct values which should (hopefully ::) ) be:
Luck 6, better crits
Shooting at an Endurance 1 target should have a knockout chance of ~21% per shot, knockdown is additional chance of ~25.23%
Shooting at an Endurance 6 target should have a knockout chance of ~18.98% per shot, knockdown is additional chance of ~15.14%
--- Quote ---crit chance is 40+10+15+1 = 75%
after reversing at target with 6 endurance
47.3% for KO and 37.76 for KD....
--- End quote ---
+4.5% as earlier
--- Quote ---dont you think thats it a bit too much ?
--- End quote ---
I think there might be a bit too many knockouts over knockdowns, but the overall seems fine to me.
--- Quote ---what are the KD / Ko chances for 9/10 END ?
--- End quote ---
Hoping this doesn't require me to correct myself twice more:
Out/Down
En 9 - 17.77 / 9.08
En 10 - 17.36/ 7.07
And Stonewall is 50% chance to avoid a knockdown
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