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Attero:

--- Quote ---+4.5% as earlier
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dunn owhat you meant wit this one ..

with 10 END it is :
45.6% chances of recived critical to get KO
18.6 % for KD
stonewall reduces the 18% to 9% ...

now assuming KD is just 4 ap lower on next turn and KO is whole 2 turns lost ? then thats plaaaaaaaaain stupid .
stonewall is useless as it protects against weaker effect that has quite low chances to kick in to begin with ...

Solar:

--- Quote ---You also have to add on the bonus for ... erm, hitting?
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--- Quote ---+4.5% as earlier
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So add it to your crit chance.


Yes, there's too many knockouts over knockdowns, will need changing, a long with a couple of other things.

Elmehdi:

--- Quote from: Solar on February 05, 2010, 04:31:27 pm ---Shooting at an Endurance 6 target should have a knockout chance of ~18.98% per shot, knockdown is additional chance of ~15.14%
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--- Quote from: Solar on February 05, 2010, 04:50:10 pm ---Yes, there's too many knockouts over knockdowns, will need changing, a long with a couple of other things.
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Playing as a sniper, it's either I knockout a minigunner with a first shot or I die. It means that I have about 25% chance of not dying (10 hexes of a range difference is just about enough to shoot first). Still too much  ::)?

Raegann:

--- Quote from: Elmehdi on February 25, 2010, 09:18:30 pm ---Playing as a sniper, it's either I knockout a minigunner with a first shot or I die.

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How so? Shouldn't he have damage like (1/3)*(3/4)*(240 to 330 dmg) if not point blank and with 5mm AP? That should be about 60 to 82,5 damage if your modified damage resist is zero, so if not dealing unaimed critical you should be ok after his turn (most of them probably not capable of shooting twice per turn). If he has 1 rank of bonus ranged dmg, it is like 80 to 102,5 damage, if he has two ranks, it should be like 100 to 122,5 damage. Am I right here?
This is just meant as a question, I'm not very good with these formulas and such kind of things. :)

Attero:
he possibly meant that he gets engaged where its bang minigun user 10 hexes in front of him
then he has about 1 shot before he gets in point blank range and get 1 shot (low hp) or two shot if he has good hp

ofc if we speak about "naked" then ofc facing minigun is pure death same as getting sniped at 50 hex range ;p

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