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pump/level action shotgun
Reiniat:
--- Quote from: LagMaster on May 11, 2011, 09:39:14 PM ---edit:make 10 prototype shotguns, take about 20 devoted testers, give them the shotguns in combat simulation and make them swamp, ask them how the shotguns where performing in battle and make an ultimate shotguns(low-med tier, medium mag, medium-High DMG)
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THAT is beta testing, i dont know what are doing the GMs now, but it is not a beta.
also it will be awesome as hell, if there is a combat like an event to test the weapons, this way everyone will test it,
and mostly troll the forum, but the 1% of al that shit will be helpful
Ulrek:
--- Quote from: Reiniat on May 10, 2011, 07:11:47 PM ---1.-very low range, insanely damage
2.-low ammo mag
3.-Introduce slug ammo
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You're forgetting something, i can already run up to you and do 200-400 damage with a P90c and use 12 bullets or pull out a avenger minigun and use 40 5mm rounds to rip you in to tiny pieces.
The only way a shotgun could beat a minigun is always doing 150+ damage at 10 hexes at least, without crits.
If you want shotguns to be PvP worthy, you'll need a nerfed version of the Fallout Tactics burst shotguns.
-Ulrek-
Michaelh139:
--- Quote from: Ulrek on May 12, 2011, 06:33:01 AM ---You're forgetting something, i can already run up to you and do 200-400 damage with a P90c and use 12 bullets or pull out a avenger minigun and use 40 5mm rounds to rip you in to tiny pieces.
The only way a shotgun could beat a minigun is always doing 150+ damage at 10 hexes at least, without crits.
If you want shotguns to be PvP worthy, you'll need a nerfed version of the Fallout Tactics burst shotguns.
-Ulrek-
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Your forgetting something too.... That's only at 1hex. Pancor would be insta kill at 1 hex every time much like avenger, and still be hitting 150 hp each regular ranged burst at the other ranges.
FstrAnthony:
--- Quote from: Reiniat on May 09, 2011, 11:57:31 PM ---
it makes me remember a lot of examples:
in COD MW2 the shotgun M1A1 was thinked as overpowered against the Stryker and in general against any other close weapon, some fan made tablesmeans that Stryker is overpowered against M1A1 due to the faster cadency (being a semiautomatic weapon) and the more damage, now no one uses the Stryker in MW2 and i mean NO ONE, if you want to beat a M1A1 you should simply dont get close, tables are wrong.
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it was acually the Spas-12 because it had amazing range and it was the strongest(i believed so)
Crazy:
--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on May 12, 2011, 12:51:12 PM ---Your forgetting something too.... That's only at 1hex. Pancor would be insta kill at 1 hex every time much like avenger, and still be hitting 150 hp each regular ranged burst at the other ranges.
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If pancor hit for 150 HP at max range, it will hit for 150 HP at point blank too, it doesn't have spread. But only a 100-110dmg on BA for his actual AP cost would make of the pancor an uber weapon.
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