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[Michaelh139]

Why not?  Right now they are literally the most useless drug on the server.  The only useful thing is Charisma and it still isn't worth it unless your a leader + unless you wanna keep up with mentats all the time (as with any drug ofc).

Meby +1-2 PE?

[spike allen]

Mhhhmm that actually would be nice.
But would need some adjusting. Like any negative modifiers?

[Badger]

Perception bonus, Agility penalty?

[Cocain]

mentats are not a combat drug... maybe in future it could give skill bonus to speech and barter

they shouldnt be a combat drug in my opinion

[Ganado]

I like Cocain's idea better. Make them improve Barter/Speech, as well as the current benefits.

-1 Intelligence if addicted isn't that bad, so this could be a disadvantage.

[Michaelh139]

I like Cocain's idea better. Make them improve Barter/Speech, as well as the current benefits.

-1 Intelligence if addicted isn't that bad, so this could be a disadvantage.

Give a useless drug more useless bonuses?  I'm not following.

The drug speeds mental processes, so a +PE or Agility would make sense, which just so happens sticks to fallout canon, while making the drug useful.  -1 Ap and -1 Agility could be the drawbacks if addicted.

[Badger]

I'd prefer them to increase Barter/Speech/Perception rather than Charisma. Using them to be able to carry around mercs that you can't talk to is kind of ridiculous.

[falloutdude]

I'd prefer them to increase Barter/Speech/Perception rather than Charisma. Using them to be able to carry around mercs that you can't talk to is kind of ridiculous.

so 1ch guys cant trade... now that is kinda risiculous

[vedaras]

its actually used and used a lot so you are wrong in this part. And it did give perception before, but it was said old drug system wont come back, cant say im too happy about that.

[Badger]

so 1ch guys cant trade... now that is kinda risiculous

Oh man, totally forgot about that. Do we still need those trader charisma restrictions? How about just inflated prices?

[Michaelh139]

its actually used and used a lot so you are wrong in this part.

For nothing more than either talking to npc (Ch 1) or taking a profession.  Besides, I didn't say if they were used or not.  I said they are most useless drug on server. 

[Badger]

For nothing more than either talking to npc (Ch 1) or taking a profession.  Besides, I didn't say if they were used or not.  I said they are most useless drug on server. 

I've got a friend I'd like you to meet.

[T-888]

Oh man, totally forgot about that. Do we still need those trader charisma restrictions? How about just inflated prices?

Yeah why not ? Why couldn't you trade if your ugly , if you got the caps everyone would accept your hideous face and weird personality.

For example rise the charisma requirement for all traders to 4 and everything would " inflate " as the charisma drops. Like 3 charisma +10%/15%$$ , 2 charisma +20%/30%$$ , 1 charisma +30%/45%/50%$$ i can't tell the magic number After wipe the caps will be more scarce so I believe this could work just fine.

[thebadman]

But it still will be penalty so people still gonna make alts for it.

[0m3n]

But it still will be penalty so people still gonna make alts for it.

People make alts for everything.So what is the point of increasing speech /barter skills?

I must agree with Michaelh mentats are most useless drugs on server they should add PE/AG instead INT which is useless .