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[Solar]

Snipers are not much better than big guns for a start.

They had an approx 15 percent drop which will then be matched by a similar drop to sniper effectiveness when crit modifiers come in.

Then the toughness/lifegiver family will have their anti crit equivalents for a more balanced perk situation.

Endlessly going on about a trait which was both so good it was always taken and had no drawbacks is completely pointless. It was simply a must have perk- yes, perk! - and it will never ever come back. Never. Ever. Hopefully that is clear enough now.

New fast shot will eventually create the single shot dps archetype, which will be easier once animations can be played with, but the concept gets an early boost when fast shot gets a rework upon the wipe.

[vedaras]

Endlessly going on about a trait which was both so good it was always taken and had no drawbacks is completely pointless. It was simply a must have perk- yes, perk! - and it will never ever come back. Never. Ever. Hopefully that is clear enough now.

Well take throwers for example, is it a perk for them? They cant use such weapons as throwing knives (or if they do they dont do much damage anyway), it is a trait it gives a drawback. Fast shot now is just pve for lulz trait, if you play with such weapon as plasma pistol it can give you that 2 ap/shot ability which could be useful in slaving or things like that, but as i said before, this is pve only. And we talked about fast shot before, so i pretty much know it wont be changed anyway, it was just an example, and the general question was about all former features together :>

[solid snake]

what its coming down to now is big gunners need their own trait. SG chars in general have the small frame trait. cripplers have finesse. pistol builds will have fast shot. so many SG traits...
with the new anti crit perks and such, idk how this will all play out because one can only choose so many perks. but a trait truly defines the build of a character.

[Solar]

Fast shot now is just pve for lulz trait, if you play with such weapon as plasma pistol it can give you that 2 ap/shot ability which could be useful in slaving or things like that, but as i said before, this is pve only.

Even with Fast Shot as it is, if animations were playing for an appropriate length then a pistol build with LA would be pretty decent against players too. They just stop them from having their real AP value because animation speed is longer than the AP value.

Eventually we will have a single shot dps build that is powerful, it's only a matter of time.

[vedaras]

Even with Fast Shot as it is, if animations were playing for an appropriate length then a pistol build with LA would be pretty decent against players too. They just stop them from having their real AP value because animation speed is longer than the AP value.

Eventually we will have a single shot dps build that is powerful, it's only a matter of time.

well if unaimed pistol shots wont do like 100 dmg per shot i dont really imagine anyone being so stupid to die in real time by these pistols guys. Its quite similar to fights against unarmed, people can kill or just run away, and those who die mostly because only of too much courage or stupidity.

[0m3n]

No reinforcement in guarded towns.

[lehytek]

UGH i cant read any of that.... I hate being color blind... 

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