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Attero:
i happened to read post about sneak http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Sneak on wiki

its me or its totaly off from having any sense ?
i mean the final check is 20+3*PER - sneak_final/6 < 0 to not get detected
it then makes 20+PER*3 < sneak_final/6 then >
sneak_final > 120+18*PER for enemy with 10 PER its 300 ??QQ for a mere 6 PER char it makes 228 sneak required ...

i also dont udnerstand this part ...
Direction - direction of the opponent has big impact, basically, the area around opponent is divided into four parts, and each part modifies your sneak skill value by reducing it (not substracting) by following percentages:
    *  Front: 90%
    * Front-sides: 60%
    * Back-sides: 30%
    * Back: 0%

by reducing (not substracting) ...eee reduce by 90% as 300 skil -> 30 for being in front ? range to target no impact?

i totaly dont understand that and i quite think sneaking is possible so there must be some error somewhere....

RavenWolf:

--- Quote ---b) opponent's sneak skill suffers penalty:
* -90 when directly looking at opponent
* -60 when looking from frontsides
* -30 when opponent is in backside area
* no penalty for 'behind' hexes

--- End quote ---
(http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51620&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20)

so if you have 300 sneak and you are in front your total sneak will be 210.

i think in that formula is missing the distance factor, so i dont know the real formula

here are some tests
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52432&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120

crunchtag:

--- Quote from: RavenWolf on February 02, 2010, 01:55:47 am ---so if you have 300 sneak and you are in front your total sneak will be 210.
--- End quote ---
This is wrong. Attero, you had it right; you'll have 30 sneak.

As it stands now, sneaking is broken and useless.
You don't see people using it because it's worthless, not because you don't see people using it.  :P

JustGreat:
Sneak has a long history of according to some, imbalance. The way the chance of not being seen is calculated, it makes the skill useless. Of course most can remember the days of sneak big gunners/snipers. ;p

Lexx:
Well, everyone argued that it's stupid to see players in front of them, if there is even a big wide open field. So it we changed and adjusted it to the FOV. So, if you are sneaking, run behind people and not in front of them.

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