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[Theryon]

I keep hearing this shit anytime someone kills you or kills someone else. Or my "favorite" one "Its just business"! Its just an escuse for people to do harm to other people. I saw a f**kt up image today... A friend of mine meet someone in an encounter...the guy whas fleeing so my friend shoot him to knock him uncouncios and give him something like an AR we had to spare... but he got a crit and the guy died. We told him  we will meet at the nearest town and give his items back but we never found him 
The thing that whas f**kt up is... he had robber boots, shovel, smg and a few caps, junk,flint, not to much bullets. We felt like shit and we imagined that the guy had to work he probably shoveld shit for hours to get some caps and xp    Maybe he didnt have a tent, damn we all traveld that road and it suckt ... to lose something that you workt your ass of for hours. Even now I can get that image out of my mind...robber boots man, robber boots we kept saying to eachother. We lookt for the guy for 30 min or more keep thalking what loot shall we give him to make up for that shit.
My point is... yes wasteland is harsh but f**king people make it so! there's no PVP when you have lvl 21 and the other not even 10... I dont know what to say more...

P.S. Robber boots man, roober boots!   

[Lexx]

I still remember when I killed my very first player (in the open beta 1). It was so horrible and I felt like an arse for a very long time.

Today I kill groups of people and feel nothing.

I got cold, my heart is made of stone now.

Wasteland is harsh.

[Floodnik]

First, what he had, is 5 minutes of work(except rubber boots - you sometimes get them on character creation), not hours.

there's no PVP when you have lvl 21 and the other not even 10...

That's normal and logical. Still you will have lvl 21 in no time, believe me.

It was so horrible and I felt like an arse for a very long time.

I am sometimes feeling bad if I kill a 1lvl bluesuit too (except NCR maybe, this town is evil) But that doesn't happen often.

[Wichura]

No it's not!

[vedaras]

my friend shoot him to knock him uncouncios and give him something

genius ... the moral of your story.

[Theryon]

My point is he keept the robber boots and he whas lvl 4 or 5, he had all that junk on him and an armor with 50% det, I dont think he had a tent... Yes its easy for you because you probably have many alts, friends and you know the game but that guy... c'mon how many times do you think he died... he whas fighting rats and fleeing from mantis. I workt my ass 2 days untill I made my tent and learnd more about the world. 5 min my ass only I know how many boxes I carryd and how much shit I shoveld. Everytime you die you get some frustration and you lose some of the fun and wonder you had for playing... Not so much now but at the beginning...

[Badger]

He's right, though, the wasteland is harsh.

Besides being able to see your opponent's HP. Or being able support yourself with several crafter alts. Or the millions of caps in Banks. Or autoaim mercs. Or the abundance of high end gear.

Or the fact this is possible.

But yeah. Super harsh. Definitely. Keep telling yourselves that.

[Theryon]

When whas the last time experiencet players had a 50% det armor or more (except some cases when you hunt for to long or you are to far away from the base to gear up) And how much do you enjoy yourself now...were is the trill when you have nothing to lose... I lost 4 FN FALLs 6000 caps and 200 7.62 ammo and I didnt feel s**t. I whas like "eh I will get something from the base/tent and hunt some more"

[Andr3aZ]

I still remember when I killed my very first player (in the open beta 1). It was so horrible and I felt like an arse for a very long time.

Today I kill groups of people and feel nothing.

I got cold, my heart is made of stone now.

Wasteland is harsh.

You should quit industrial music, makes you a pking robot

[Theryon]

I get nothing from hording or haveing 5 trillion caps... if I have the basics in a big or moderate supply its ok by me.... The things get interesting when you are running out of ammo or something like that and you see the entire faction grouping to hunt and supply the base with much needed stuff, that is one fine looking picture. Its beautifull to see that you finally have something to do and that you must risk your ass a little. Apart from that all I see is hording, greed and f**kt ups shit that bores the crap out of me.

[Kelin]

He will either quit the game or get stronger after some time and kick your ass  

[Blackmore]

the guy whas fleeing so my friend shoot him to knock him uncouncios and give him something like an AR we had to spare... but he got a crit and the guy died.

I envy your level of intelligence.

[Theryon]

When whas the last time experiencet players had a 50% det armor or more (except some cases when you hunt for to long or you are to far away from the base to gear up) And how much do you enjoy yourself now...were is the trill when you have nothing to lose... I lost 4 FN FALLs 6000 caps and 200 7.62 ammo and I didnt feel s**t. I whas like "eh I will get something from the base/tent and hunt some more"

I get madder when I lose my condoms, Iguana, lighter and my shiv then for the caps or wepons/armors.

[Badger]

Well the game all but directly encourages hoarding through full loot. If you don't hoard, you're at a massive disadvantage.

The consequence of this is that people are prepared to do less. Nobody wants to risk their best gear, which is totally understandable.

I would be interested in trying a partial loot system or something. Full loot isn't harsh when you've got a base full of combat armour.

[Eternauta]

He's right, though, the wasteland is harsh.

Besides being able to see your opponent's HP. Or being able support yourself with several crafter alts. Or the millions of caps in Banks. Or autoaim mercs. Or the abundance of high end gear.

Or the fact this is possible.

But yeah. Super harsh. Definitely. Keep telling yourselves that.

Simple but strong, I agree completely. I laughed when I saw the screenshot in the link... I'd seen it already not so long ago, couldn't stand so much purple.