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Grease gun vs tommy gun, nerf/buff.

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Delta77:

--- Quote from: Reiniat on March 08, 2011, 07:05:17 PM ---A story lesson:
The Tommy Guns and the Grease Guns, where the first "popular" automatic weapons in the time betwen the two world wars. They were NOT a good weapons, the mafia use tommy guns because they sound loud, make many damage and are cheap, so his purpose are make fear. And the grease guns were easy to hide.
mafia never go to war, there is just ambushes in those times, shot a lot and run.
after, they were suplanted by MP38 and another german models, also original tommy guns dont come with the classic circular magazine, they come with a normal magazine, gangs put the new magazine.

--- End quote ---

the grase gun was cheap, not the tommygun and it was actually a really good weapon, it didnt have the accuracy of the mp40 or the sten, it didnt have the cadence of the ppsh, but it had a good power an acceptable accuracy and it had a good cadence. Obviously the fn fal is much more nerfed since it's bullet can go throught kevlar. I think the tommy gun should shoot more rounds than the grasegun, since the grease gun's cadence was much lower. grase gun = control and accuracy tommy gun = cadence and acceptable recoil.

Swinglinered:
The FN-Fal is really big and heavy; I wouldn't pick it as an assault rifle.

The pressure column is excellent, so I think it would make a nice sniper rifle (with customization), with burst for close-in backup functionality.

Wasn't there a Soviet rifle like that?
Some AK mod?

Johnnybravo:
Uh I remmember some Zastava rifles being based on AK, but you seriously suggest more small guns?

Ulrek:
If you're talking about a soviet SVD sniper rifle.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragunov_sniper_rifle

Than yes, there is a soviet rifle that looks kind of like an AK, but it's not really one as far as design goes.

Also, the wikipedia says the FN FAL is a battle rifle, and not one of the assault carbines you're using to seeing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_FAL

Even if the wikipedia isn't always correct i still agree with the statement, it's a battle rifle from the years after WW2, not a very modern gun.


Also, since i never jumped in on the debate about tommy guns and grease guns, the model of tommy gun shown in game is a pre-army model, and thus has a very high rate of fire, even if it's known to jam at times. the grease gun has always been a US army weapon, and has a lower rate of fire, but was made for about 3 US dollars, when the tommy gun was made for 300 US. the details on the price probably very, so let me know if i am wrong about that.

-Ulrek-

Johnnybravo:
Was talking about Zastava M76.

Anyway, looking at F2 thompson, it's 1928 model, so it's definetly not a weapon that'd carry to 2077 and further.
However since it uses .45 cal like original did, it's probably not a different weapon with original looks either.

Well to be honest here, both Thompson and 'Grease gun' are probably kind of weapons that should not even match 10mm SMG, or be tuned for NPC usage.

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