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Grease gun vs tommy gun, nerf/buff.

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Michaelh139:

--- Quote from: Johnnybravo on March 09, 2011, 11:55:42 PM ---Was talking about Zastava M76.

Anyway, looking at F2 thompson, it's 1928 model, so it's definetly not a weapon that'd carry to 2077 and further.
However since it uses .45 cal like original did, it's probably not a different weapon with original looks either.

Well to be honest here, both Thompson and 'Grease gun' are probably kind of weapons that should not even match 10mm SMG, or be tuned for NPC usage.

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True to an extent, america was backward culturally, not in warfare...  grease guns and tommy's prolly wouldn't exist anymore really.  Maybe in a museum. :P

Ganado:
I love how this simple suggestion on changing the ammo size/damage turned into a debate about real-life guns vs in-game guns, and every single detail about that... ugh.

Michaelh139:

--- Quote from: Dishonest Abe on March 10, 2011, 01:57:43 AM ---I love how this simple suggestion on changing the ammo size/damage turned into a debate about real-life guns vs in-game guns, and every single detail about that... ugh.

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Just remember Fallout is based on realistic world just with advanced (weapon) technology and continuous 80s feel to it.

So it makes sense why tommy and grease gun wouldn't exist actually...  Not to mention these were manufactured 200 years a go or so.

Reiniat:

--- Quote from: Dishonest Abe on March 10, 2011, 01:57:43 AM ---I love how this simple suggestion on changing the ammo size/damage turned into a debate about real-life guns vs in-game guns, and every single detail about that... ugh.

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its like a videogamer canon the fact of know about weapons. IS AWESOME
also all need to know:
1.-A scope is a WEAPON ATACHMENT, of course there are natural snipers, designed for be snipers, and you cant use them without scopes
2.-Every weapon can be atached with a scope, i remember in the Vietnam War the support weapon for snipers was the M1A1 carbine with scope, and in the recent wars most guerrillas use FAL with scopes as snipers, (while there is no Dragunov sniper)
3.-Tought it not good to use automatic guns as snipers because they lose precision, and you dont need a lot of shots, only one. (first FAL was semi-automatics)

It will be very good to have scopes for atach to weapons, but maybe the engine and game system wont let devs make this, tough they can expand the range of the weapons, but this is exploitable

Also im still thinking that tommy and grease guns need to still in 1tier being unpowerful weapons, there was designed to this, most of us culd think that tommys are powerful for all that mafia movies, but no, tommy is shit, cheap and scaring.

About fallout timeline. Why we have P90 and H11?
whatever H11 should be craftable, just little nerfed...

Michaelh139:

--- Quote from: Reiniat on March 10, 2011, 02:46:20 AM ---About fallout timeline. Why we have P90 and H11?
whatever H11 should be craftable, just little nerfed...

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--- Quote ---â– The actual P90 Personal Defense Weapons is produced by Fabrique Nationale de Herstal. In the game, this gun is being depicted as having been produced by another real-life gun company, Heckler & Koch. It is also shown as being either 10mm or 9mm, while the real version is chambered for FN's 5.7x28mm ammunition

The Heckler & Koch P90c was just coming into use at the time of the war.
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Although G11 IS a gun that shouldn't exist:


--- Quote ---â– The real-world counterpart for the G11 was developed for the German Bundeswehr, but never entered full production (around 1000 were produced and delivered) because the newly reunified Germany already had stockpiles worthy of two armies (not to mention the great expense involved in bringing the economy of the former East Germany up to West German standards), so the additional costs of continued G11 production weren't justified and the project was dropped.
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 I know you said whatever but I just couldn't help myself. :P

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