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Scrap PvP Stealing
Rascal:
geezas yeah just make this game another wow clone. Now its uniqe but with ur "nerf everything" thinking its gona be crap soon.
Sarakin:
5 happy players compared to 1 unhappy Rascal (thief) - which way should we go ? I agree with avv, we need mechanism that favours player skill over minmaxing. And 2.5d will help too
--- Quote from: Rascal on February 28, 2011, 03:21:41 PM ---watching ur back by setting trade window in right place
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Done, still I have to move everytime he uses "steal".
--- Quote from: Rascal on February 28, 2011, 03:21:41 PM ---having 4 example cash in hand till u choose stuff u wanna buy,
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And then what ?
--- Quote from: Rascal on February 28, 2011, 03:21:41 PM ---choosing right hours to do important deals
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Theres almost always something interesting in shops, even waiting 10 mins can cost us
--- Quote from: Rascal on February 28, 2011, 03:21:41 PM ---when I finally meat some troll whos goal is only to disturb and not let me make a deal ( wich is rare like hell) then i can just go worldmap go back after 10 minutes and he is gone.
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No they are not. For me , it seems like they are camping city 24/7. Not to mention there is often more than one thief.
Badger:
--- Quote from: Rascal on February 28, 2011, 02:38:03 PM --- geeezas the beuty of this game is that it has a lot of threats and deangerous situation in it - its so falloutish - wasteland is harsh baby.
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I think that it's incredibly far from Falloutish. Do you think Buster would allow a thief to chase a customer around his store? No. He'd get his Bozar wielding goons to take him out the first sign of trouble.
The whole 'It's like Fallout/It's nothing like Fallout' is wheeled out every gameplay discussion, and can be argued in either direction. You think the possibility of being pickpocketed in the NCR is very 'Fallout'. I think if a known thief can operate in the same area in an incredibly obvious way, in a lawful town, isn't 'Fallout' at all. I think the spectacle of a man in Vault PJs trying to use lockpick on me detracts from the 'Fallout' atmosphere far more than not being able to steal would. Discuss my points on whether or not they make for a better gameplay experience, not whether they adhere to our own respective definitions of Fallout.
I know how easy it is to dodge thieves. I'm saying that it's such a pointless waste of time you shouldn't have to.
Eternauta:
I think Stealing in general is kinda useless. Why?
Well experienced players know how to deal with thieves, and only newbies tend to be robbed, but they also tend to have only poor gear in their inventory. This makes PvP Stealing kinda useless for getting items, and only useful if you want to troll another person.
Now about PvE Stealing, you can actually get some items form it... but with the current Reputation system, well you can just kill the NPC and loot his corpse, without worrying about the consequences.
In other words, Stealing is just for trolling.
Rascal:
now stealing on players is very hard but possible - and that is why - when u succed u feel great :) (ofcoors im talking here about some good stuff not stealing 5lvl from his mauser)
I see u just dont realise how stealing could be an "art" in game, making "steal traps" by using map features. Stealing could give a lot of satisfactiona and fun - for example -->
I saw a guy who ride in into HUB with his highwayman (fully armed in ba lsw) he was wating 4 someone and talking with few players around. Honestly he acted very stupid -> lockpier/thief danger. So I run to him and quickly use steal on him - to my surprise he put his key on his inventory instead of his hand! (what would fully prevent any stealing attemp on it). Ultra fast drag&drop before he managed to step away (which automaticly "defuse" stealing window) - fast run to the car and hell yeah baby higwayman is mine. Inside the trunk there were tons of top tier stuff ba/lsw/drugs/lot of caps. I quickly got back to hub to maine entrace and other players who whitnessed my trick cheered and congrats me that brilliant thief action. I play almost only PvP TC shit , used my thief for very short period but still that was one of the best if even not THE BEST moment in this game for me.
example above just shows that all fault was on that robbed player - he act unwise and i manage to punish his careless behavior.
And now we can go back to u players who are saying nerf thief -> by that u just gona make another part of this game DEAD. Fonline should be rich of different types of oportunities to have fun. U just wanna close one because u dont find interesting playing as a thief and whats is worst because ur too lazy/careless/stupid to take care about ur safety ingame(which is sooo fucking simple).
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