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Scrap PvP Stealing

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vrag:
I dont know if this has been mentioned allready, but I think its idiotic that you can be "pickpocketed" when your dealing with merchant.
There should be safe zones.
And many times the barter screen is on your character so you cant really pay attention if someone is standing next to you because you cant see shit.

Make the bartering safe zones from stealing.
Just my two cents.

TheGreenHand:

--- Quote from: vrag on August 12, 2011, 03:27:16 PM ---I dont know if this has been mentioned allready, but I think its idiotic that you can be "pickpocketed" when your dealing with merchant.
There should be safe zones.
And many times the barter screen is on your character so you cant really pay attention if someone is standing next to you because you cant see shit.

Make the bartering safe zones from stealing.

--- End quote ---
The devs have mentioned that they're not interested in making safe zones, which is a good thing. To recap a little from this lengthy thread, the stealing animation will be changed either with 3D or the next wipe, I'm not sure which. But this alone will solve much of the trolling problem.
As for not being able to see when bartering, you can move the barter window or, a better option, download a new skin, either Ras or Pure Evil. Both are very well done and I believe have options for transparent dialog windows. I use Ras Clear, you can see right through your barter window so you can see everything going on behind it.

ronillon:
I really like the idea, that weakened status should affect your skills. When weakened, all skills would have 50% (or so) penalty to chance to succeed. Or better, every minute of weakened state should give you 10% penalty.

And when talking about it, it should be possible to remove weakened by say, eating some food and drinking some water?

As for other solutions...

Unprotected status should remain after death, and it's lenght should be according to thieves reputation.

Along with animation changes, griefers should have much harder time.

Also don't forget about day/night changes in the perception and stuff. Personally, i would like thieves prowling in sneak at night time in the Hub.

To tell the truth, i would like Thieves to use skills, that are incriesed by http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Thief perk. Sneak, Lock pick, Steal, and Traps skills. But i understand, this would be really hard to implement now.

OT: The fact, that even with the lowest Science, you can dissasemble complex weapon/armor in notime bothers me a lot more. And it's without cooldown as well, to make it even worse.

Wallace:
I just got back from NCR... dead
Why is that?
Because i tried to sell freshly crafted flamers to the store
half of them were stolen before i could drag them into barter screen and guards didn't do anything about it
I've left screen space to observe if any thief was after me but exiting from barter screen took enough time for a thief to steal most of my stuff
When i tried to attack thief for that the guards got me splattered all over the floor AND THEN didn't bother to collect my stuff so the thief robbed me from all my possessions

What i mean is: THERE IS NO FREAKIN' DEFENSE AGAINST THIEVES!
and that is f*cked up and need to be repaired

RavenousRat:

--- Quote from: Wallace on September 14, 2011, 06:39:33 PM ---I just got back from NCR... dead
Why is that?
Because i tried to sell freshly crafted flamers to the store
half of them were stolen before i could drag them into barter screen and guards didn't do anything about it
I've left screen space to observe if any thief was after me but exiting from barter screen took enough time for a thief to steal most of my stuff
When i tried to attack thief for that the guards got me splattered all over the floor AND THEN didn't bother to collect my stuff so the thief robbed me from all my possessions

What i mean is: THERE IS NO FREAKIN' DEFENSE AGAINST THIEVES!
and that is f*cked up and need to be repaired

--- End quote ---
Then how thieves would steal items? You want thieves to fail all the time and be unable to steal your possessions? Remove steal skill at all?

Oh noes! I was walking in wasteland with 100kk caps in my inventory! Some guy appeared in encounter and shot with bazooka! This is very very bad, remove bazookas from game, I hate them! BG skill is broken!! Remove guys appearing in the wasteland! Make me invulnerable to bazookas!

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