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Stealing not a crime?
Reginmund:
--- Quote from: avv on February 12, 2011, 10:07:18 AM ---How does this repay to the victim what the thief has done?
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Yeah it would seem a lot of people would jump on this bandwagon of getting their stuff back. I'd be pretty annoyed at losing stuff to thieves too but you just have to let it go. Both you and I may shrug it off while any new player will be pissed with essentially losing time spent of gathering/crafting/farming etc. The compromise here however is that the thief if caught can't just go get killed and terrorise yourself or others within a matter of minutes. (that is of course this jailing/grunt work idea works)
It may encourage more alts or remaking characters but its up to them to bother leveling a thief all over again if they get sick of being jailed.
--- Quote from: avv on February 12, 2011, 10:07:18 AM ---And more minmaxing.
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Well i haven't stated any requirements on it but why bother to pump stats into speech if the activity will be just as tedious as the others but in a different form (well i hope it can be this way).
avv:
--- Quote from: Reginmund on February 12, 2011, 11:20:08 AM ---Yeah it would seem a lot of people would jump on this bandwagon of getting their stuff back. I'd be pretty annoyed at losing stuff to thieves too but you just have to let it go. Both you and I may shrug it off while any new player will be pissed with essentially losing time spent of gathering/crafting/farming etc. The compromise here however is that the thief if caught can't just go get killed and terrorise yourself or others within a matter of minutes. (that is of course this jailing/grunt work idea works)
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What's wrong here that nobody gets the stolen item. What's the feature good for then? Thief is pissed off and so it the victim.
In addition what's it good for anyone that the thief has to perform some boring tasks somewhere? If it's supposed to be some sort of hard labour then it should produce something for someone. It'd be completely okay if the thief had to do box hauling until he has repaid the stolen goods, the caps go to the victim's bank account.
Then again why wouldn't any safe city just shoot the thief and give the stolen item back to the victim? A rednick tagging was the best feature regarding this matter, it existed 2 wipes ago. You did something bad in town, you got redtagged and everyone knew it was safe to shoot you. The tagging lasted for several hours even after death.
Reginmund:
--- Quote from: avv on February 12, 2011, 11:32:41 AM ---What's wrong here that nobody gets the stolen item. What's the feature good for then?
You did something bad in town, you got redtagged and everyone knew it was safe to shoot you
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Well you are welcome to add something to this idea that will take care of this problem but the thing is, that is all it is, an idea. Also the main driver for this idea was the fact that thieves can just come back and do as they please. Also i wasn't around 2 wipes ago and i like that redflagging, it's like they have a list of offenders and it actually works to a degree. So why did they get rid of it?
avv:
--- Quote from: Reginmund on February 12, 2011, 12:23:01 PM ---Well you are welcome to add something to this idea that will take care of this problem but the thing is, that is all it is, an idea. Also the main driver for this idea was the fact that thieves can just come back and do as they please.
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No idea why redtagging was removed.
A way to force thief to repay the stolen items: if something was stolen from you, you can go to the local lawkeeper and say the thieve's name and items that were lost. The thief gets permanent rep loss. Only way to bring the rep back is to return the items to the lawkeeper, or equal ammount of caps, in addition a fine equal to for example 1000 caps is required. When the victim arrives the town, one of the guards tells him the sheriff wants to talk to him. He goes to the sheriff and gets a chance to take the items or caps and forgive the thief, resulting in the thief getting back his rep.
This would be pretty much un-abusable, except with alts but it takes a while to level a thief alt.
cannotspace:
--- Quote from: avv on February 12, 2011, 11:32:41 AM ---What's wrong here that nobody gets the stolen item. What's the feature good for then? Thief is pissed off and so it the victim.
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thief doesn't get pissed because he didn't lose anything, thieves are always (except some very rare occasions) naked, only thing they lost was the stolen stuff... which wasn't his anyways so no loss there
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