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[Ulrek]

Alright. i can under stand why we cant enslave Khan raiders. those guys are just evil. but the little wannabes in the leather jackets are push overs anyway. marauder's are only a little better due to better gear.

Also, some of you might say "They're strong willed! they cant be broken!", well. we can already catch ghoul crazies. which are hostile ghouls killing everything insight. how can those be counted as weak willed? plus we can enslave bandits up north, but why do we have to walk all the way up north to catch a slave that won't insta die, that can use a crappy hunting rifle?

I'm just asking if there was any special reason the community knows as to why they're not catchable?

-Ulrek-

[Alvarez]

Game balance, i guess.
Also, they rather die than serve, see Bitter Springs.

[Ulrek]

Game balance, i guess.
Also, they rather die than serve, see Bitter Springs.

I said they weren't the Khan's, read the OP before you post please.

And how would having crappy raiders for slaves effect game balance?

-Ulrek-

[Haraldx]

Yeah, you can get much better (http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Homesteader) and much worse slaves (http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Weak_Peasant). I want Raider wannabe's to be my slave!

[Michaelh139]

A definite yes, there is no imba in this suggestion, it's simply good. (I know its more of a question which belongs in survival/game help but its a good suggestion if posted in the right area in my book)

[Ulrek]

Well i don't mean this so much as a suggestion, i was more hopping to get people talking about why we cant enslave even weak raiders, when insane ghouls and northern bandits are catchable.

Otherwise i'd put it there. if the moderators feel it would be better as a suggestion than they can feel free to move it. but i just asked the community with this, rather than the dev team.

-Ulrek-

[drypoothe]

A definite yes, there is no imba in this suggestion, it's simply good. (I know its more of a question which belongs in survival/game help but its a good suggestion if posted in the right area in my book)

just a bit offtopic but I keep saying it

What's "imba"?

[Crazy]

imba=imbalanced

[Wilks]

I think all NPC should be enslaveble (except mutants, BoS, Enclave, NCR army, or city caravans). I don't understand why a fuckin drug raider can't be enslave (and other like Hubologist, mercenaries, press gang etc...). It's difficult too put them on the ground for use a rope on them, and they should be more expensive for Metzger (because there is no difference between farmer and a combat slave, it's stupid).

So for raider, they are just strong guys. But Conan the Barbarian is a slaver so why not them ?

[Alvarez]

i can under stand why we cant enslave Khan raiders.

Hello?!!!

You wrote it, so if you don't mean them, don't refer to them at all, just to going all smart on me after that, boy! 

[LagMaster]

i know why:

normal raiders have the leather jacket hero male skin, with suports all weapon tipes and they are in low numbers

if we can enslave them they will be a cheap and more easly optaineble alternative to moonshiners combat slaves, and the male raiders will be puted as militia

i agree with the green hair female ones, but for the male ones, i have my doubt

[Ulrek]

i know why:

normal raiders have the leather jacket hero male skin, with suports all weapon tipes and they are in low numbers

if we can enslave them they will be a cheap and more easly optaineble alternative to moonshiners combat slaves, and the male raiders will be puted as militia

i agree with the green hair female ones, but for the male ones, i have my doubt

Me and two guys could easily walk over 20 male raiders even if they were militia at a town, they're crappy, have no EW skills likely, and have no BG skills. so no rocket launchers, no laser rifles, the best they could use really is an assault rifle. have you ever tried to kill the little weaklings with mausers and spears before LagMaster? also, gangs don't use combat slaves either, since both male raiders and combat slaves have under 100 HP, low resist to damage, low skill, and otherwise wouldn't even be able to defend the town against anything other than a bluesuit rush at best.

Hello?!!!

You wrote it, so if you don't mean them, don't refer to them at all, just to going all smart on me after that, boy! 

A: You already saw that i mentioned it, and that i wasn't talking about them, so why did you repeat what i already said?

B: I put that there so that people would know which raiders i'm talking about, to limit the confusion.

-Ulrek-