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[Wichura]

Manero i think you cant win this WAR

Never stop trying :>

[Doctor Eex]

Regarding using BG in TC.
People use RL because of:
-range
-no spread (friendly fire)
-splash damage
-knock down
-cheap rockets - why don't spam enemy with them?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Linnea]

Regarding using BG in TC.
People use RL because of:
-range
-no spread (friendly fire)
-splash damage
-knock down
-cheap rockets - why don't spam enemy with them?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

You sir just pointed out why RL(Tier1) is more useful in most situations than Avenger(Tier3).
Sure Avenger is higher damage if using a proper build against another build which dont have toughness or psycho or whatever, Avenger is really only good at point blank, vs snipers, or bad builds.
If you ever tried shooting with avenger from decent range with 2x BRD to an enemy with 2x toughness, psycho or beer(asuming brotherhood armor) o_O then you would see how AWESOME dmg you would make, its really pathetic, Avenger is almost as i wrote before, only good at killing snipers, or point blank

[Doctor Eex]

If you ever tried shooting with avenger from decent range with 2x BRD to an enemy with 2x toughness, psycho or beer(asuming brotherhood armor) o_O then you would see how AWESOME dmg you would make, its really pathetic, Avenger is almost as i wrote before, only good at killing snipers, or point blank

Sounds like balance? Yes a avenger minigun is not so good against tanks, may it is how it SHOULD be? I mean 40, but weak 5mm bullets.
Don't get it, why Avenger should be UBER weapon?

[Linnea]

Its not about being UBER or not, the fact is that RL is more useful than Avenger and its such a big differens between them echonomicly, its like saying fn fal is better than sniper or whatever, laser is also kinda the same way, plasma is very crippled due to the very low range.

[manero]

Avanger doesnt deserve 3rd tier position if 1st tier weapon is more usefull. Maybe second tier but definitely not 3rd. Make Avanger valuable weapon.

- Rockwell BigBazooka - my long time personal favourite, but minimal damage 35? I think it should be at least 50.

Yes, RL damage is more random then sniper crtis, 35-100? Sometimes i hit for 30 and sometimes for 70 BUT its acceptable ONLY because RL is  1st tier weapon.

[Rascal]

still 35dmg from freaking big explosion is a joke xD

and about CriticalBazookaBuild - i've got it (21% also)and crits are rather a rare nice surprise than something to be counting on. In theory 21% gives u chance like 1 to 5 to get that crit so...

[headshot]

Rocket Launcher would be tier 2 but with increased minimum damage.
And I agree with manero and Linnea. Since Avenger is good only at point blank it isn't worth tier 3.

[drypoothe]

Well, M60 ok i guess (ammo is harder than 5mm tho)

flamer is great for lvling, improved isn't completely useless if used with the better fuel (there's the range issue, but it's still not THAT bad)

Problem is with miniguns and RL, miniguns eat ammo like crazy and do damages similar to small tiny guns. And RL... Sure it has 40 hex range, but it has such a low damage when you look at the fact that it is a rocket launcher after all..

Maybe making the damage vary less? it's 35-100, maybe 80-100 would at least be an improvement

[Linnea]

increasing the RL dmg would power up the RL tank builds even more, thats not needed.
Thing with RL is the free shot, if you have friends with RLs too it means multiple free shots, got enough friends with RLs free shots turns to free kills.
What should be done is making it harder to craft the rockets, or farm, because now you can either farm in 1 hour on piss easy unity or masters,
or make a steal character, join and rob BOS patrols. Thats pretty bad, and lame

[Rascal]

What should be done is making it harder to craft the rockets, or farm, because now you can either farm in 1 hour on piss easy unity or masters,
or make a steal character, join and rob BOS patrols. Thats pretty bad, and lame.

Fuck yeah and by that nerf BG even more brilliant idea... ehhh...

[Linnea]

I would hardly call that a nerf, but ok whatever

[manero]

Lin..? At the end we will all be forced to use flamethrowers... Im done.

[Linnea]

Heh point was, making Avengers bad, RLs+rockets easy farmable, then lets forget about ANY BG weapon, RL for all.

[Perteks]

Nope, point was that to make avanger little more usefull than flamethrower both are usefull only on few hex