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Ulrek:

--- Quote from: wezu on January 28, 2011, 11:05:57 AM ---avv- you may have a point there but I don't see any suggestions on how to make these mythicall skills part of the game.
What skills should that be? Must I panint a picture to shoot from a in game gun? Or dance the flamenco to craft ammo? Maybe solve a sudocu to make a headshot?  Halfcircle rigth + hi punch? Forward, back, down, lo-kick, hi kick, lo punch, hi punch+down. 4 HIT COMBO!!

Wrong game.

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A: You make no sense.


--- Quote from: avv on January 28, 2011, 01:01:09 PM ---Fallout tactics and Jagged Alliance 2 would be good examples to start with.

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B: I can kind of see the idea here. but really, the only way to make mutants less used. is to remove bank interest. that is, as far as i can tell the main reason people use mutants. cripple the money supply. and people won't be using super mutant mercs as much any more.

C: For the people who are saying "Just ban duel loggin' for gud!", they're trying.

D: For people who otherwise have no idea what they're talking about but still hate mutants due to getting blown up all the time.. spewing non-sense probably won't get anything done.

-Ulrek-

Hololasima:

--- Quote from: Ulrek on January 28, 2011, 04:00:23 PM ---B: I can kind of see the idea here. but really, the only way to make mutants less used. is to remove bank interest. that is, as far as i can tell the main reason people use mutants. cripple the money supply. and people won't be using super mutant mercs as much any more.

-Ulrek-

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You dont get it ? You dont mind that you are dead before you see who firing ?
Can you people just see this simple thing ?

Keldorn:

--- Quote from: Ulrek on January 28, 2011, 04:00:23 PM ---
B: I can kind of see the idea here. but really, the only way to make mutants less used. is to remove bank interest. that is, as far as i can tell the main reason people use mutants. cripple the money supply. and people won't be using super mutant mercs as much any more.

-Ulrek-

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If anything the root of the problem is power gaming and horribly balanced combat among others.  Blaming bank interest is just lazy.

Fix dual logging, re-balance the combat, make muties obtainable througha much slower process than "just paying caps" like faction points/reputation with remnants, adjust mutie weapon damage. 

Graf:

--- Quote from: Keldorn on January 28, 2011, 10:52:54 PM ---If anything the root of the problem is power gaming and horribly balanced combat among others.  Blaming bank interest is just lazy.
Fix dual logging, re-balance the combat, make muties obtainable througha much slower process than "just paying caps" like faction points/reputation with remnants, adjust mutie weapon damage.  

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Why do you think, that earning caps is easy? Yes, there was a bug with TC this session, but normally it's not that easy to get caps.
Moreover, to get muties, you also need to kill unity, get their rocket launchers, then go and stole rockets from brotherhood which isn't easy at all. After all, you need to give all stuff to muties and transport them to the city.
You just underestimate how difficult it is.

Keldorn:

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Moreover, to get muties, you also need to kill unity, get their rocket launchers, then go and stole rockets from brotherhood which isn't easy at all. After all, you need to give all stuff to muties and transport them to the city.
You just underestimate how difficult it is.


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I am sure you are correct.  My post was more about how fucking lazy it is to just sit back and blame bank interest for the mutie problem instead of blaming power gaming.  Or how the devs can't fix dual logging so folks instead point more fingers at bank interest.  And the posts who would much rather blame bank interest than how fucked up it is for TC to give out caps instead of items.  I am sure the primary reason for TC giving caps is to only allow the big gangs access to a substantial and consistent rate of caps.  Combine that with the dictatorial approach of making most, if not all, good shit caps only and you see a pattern of favoritism to big gangs.

Best thread was Izual wanting to eliminate bank interest because of a stupid glitch and to help the big gangs out by screwing over the little folks.

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