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The origins of the conflict

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kttdestroyer:
I have bad experience of long messages, most people here dont have enough power to read them thought i can tell you. Anyways, i agree with most of it.

I hope to hear some clear respons from Rogues here (how they see the situation). The thing is, i know you guys want to pvp, but, we want to RP (at least big part of us), maybe there is a way to make it work for both of us.  8)

John Ryder:
Hey guys here's a fact: origins of a conflict are simple as that you are in different factions. And that's it. Long story short. :)

Kilgore:

--- Quote from: kttdestroyer on January 24, 2011, 10:20:23 pm ---I hope to hear some clear respons from Rogues here (how they see the situation).
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How I (not all Rogues, even if considering all my proxies, alts, duallogs, focds and cheats) see the situation:
- we've made (with a big help of Broken Hill Hunters, who were called "Rogues" and "PK" by you :) ) an RP project in BH few months ago. All we got from you was endless flame, spam and shit in forums, irc and in game,
- no one likes to be shot inside a town, despite how much that PK-ing is justified by some "roleplay" (lawyer project) issues. So, don't expect any peace from Rogues as long as you keep shooting us in Redding ;) telling us to "make some new alt" is just a show of disrespect  ;)
- teaming up with proxy soldiers "to defeat superior evil" (instead of looking for a different way to solve things) seems funny to me, even funnier than our alliance with RDA.

As I know that nothing will change with your politics (therefore, nothing will change with ours), I hope you will soon get used to playing side-by-side with hubertus, janosiks and other strigojs, because we have enough resources and players to bring war to Redding all of the time, till next wipe.

Right now, during twenty-four-hours, the town is run by the North Bandits, you show up in the evening, during the evening and the night Redding is a warzone, eventually we're going to sleep and you have more and more players (yeah, different timezone, I know). After the night, Redding is again taken by the North Bandits and so on. Given these circumstances, I don't have an idea how you want to do any successful RP there. Posting walls of text in this thread won't solve anything. Of course, you can always write that you are so good and we are so evil, but what does it change?

If you think that after several losses we're gonna give up, then you are wrong. PvP is what keeps us playing 2238, and you perfectly deliver us some piece of action every day. And no matter how much you justify your actions/treaties, no matter how much you insult us, no matter how many people you take to a battle, no matter how many of us you will kill - we will always be back to rape your ass there. Good luck.

naossano:

--- Quote from: Kilgore on January 25, 2011, 02:02:05 am ---- we've made (with a big help of Broken Hill Hunters, who were called "Rogues" and "PK" by you :) ) an RP project in BH few months ago. All we got from you was endless flame, spam and shit in forums, irc and in game,
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As i didn't know much about this one, should be good if someone could give more clue about this dark era.



--- Quote from: Kilgore on January 25, 2011, 02:02:05 am ---- no one likes to be shot inside a town, despite how much that PK-ing is justified by some "roleplay" (lawyer project) issues. So, don't expect any peace from Rogues as long as you keep shooting us in Redding ;) telling us to "make some new alt" is just a show of disrespect  ;)
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That's why we shoot pk and outlaws on sight. To prevent those we know, are thief or pk, from doing anything in town. Maybe the laws in Redding are a little bit too harsh. But it is up to citizens to decide it, not rogues, who just kill us inside. (or outside, as we don't want bad guys from outside, at least with the actual government)



--- Quote from: Kilgore on January 25, 2011, 02:02:05 am ---- teaming up with proxy soldiers "to defeat superior evil" (instead of looking for a different way to solve things) seems funny to me, even funnier than our alliance with RDA.
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We didn't choose to start this conflict. But, seems more strange to dig ourself underground and give up Redding, after everything we built, or tried to build.


--- Quote from: Kilgore on January 25, 2011, 02:02:05 am ---As I know that nothing will change with your politics (therefore, nothing will change with ours), I hope you will soon get used to playing side-by-side with hubertus, janosiks and other strigojs, because we have enough resources and players to bring war to Redding all of the time, till next wipe.
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It is new for me. I don't know where it will lead us.


--- Quote from: Kilgore on January 25, 2011, 02:02:05 am ---Right now, during twenty-four-hours, the town is run by the North Bandits, you show up in the evening, during the evening and the night Redding is a warzone, eventually we're going to sleep and you have more and more players (yeah, different timezone, I know). After the night, Redding is again taken by the North Bandits and so on. Given these circumstances, I don't have an idea how you want to do any successful RP there. Posting walls of text in this thread won't solve anything. Of course, you can always write that you are so good and we are so evil, but what does it change?
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Threads, in order to correct things that seems non sense for me (or us, or you) and try to find out where could be the common ground. (or make sure to forget it, if it doesn't exist)
... Or to troll from those (from both sides) who think it is better to let's hate grow up.


--- Quote from: Kilgore on January 25, 2011, 02:02:05 am ---If you think that after several losses we're gonna give up, then you are wrong. PvP is what keeps us playing 2238, and you perfectly deliver us some piece of action every day. And no matter how much you justify your actions/treaties, no matter how much you insult us, no matter how many people you take to a battle, no matter how many of us you will kill - we will always be back to rape your ass there. Good luck.
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So, if you don't care about our justifications, don't mock them.

As i said earlier, it is perfectly possible for you to wipe us. But thank you for trying to make things more clear.

Hope we will find out an way out that won't break our apk policy, your PVP appetite, and the safety of Redding.
(but, as you keep killing us, seems very very hard to find a way of letting you enter, without shooting. You made yourself hardly trustable, by attacking us)

In my opinion, this endless battle with different timezone couldn't last forever.
We needs both alliance to meet and talk deeper.

Skycast:

--- Quote from: naossano on January 25, 2011, 03:18:06 pm ---As i didn't know much about this one, should be good if someone could give more clue about this dark era.

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Greatest one, you make my day.
If you dont know much, so you just posting wall of flame.

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