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The origins of the conflict

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Cryofluid:
As each side have launched their worst trolldogs, I will try to recall the facts

1- Before beginning this session, we decided to build our RP on: "some kind of fascist lawyers who beleive hard in their laws and who want to impose their rules on a wasteland region (ie Judge Dredd)"

2- We took TOO MUCH time to have enough power to settle our project => meanwhile North cities were completly dominated by Rogues and CS alternately.

3- Rogues begun their project in BH => I was personnally very happy to hear that => at last some life in those boring dead north cities!=> everything was ok and TTTLA even sent delegations to BH where we were welcomed very well.

4- Something went wrong (probably because of us) => we were not welcomed in BH any more => VSB raided the bluesuits in BH and killed everyone (because of boredom?) => BH becomes soon a warzone => a bit later Rogues stop their project


5-on our side, at last, RP project begun to take form and we chose Redding to settle it => we contacted Rogues (to see if we could have an agreement and sign a treaty)=> MSH said he would try to convince his team

6- We believed so hard in this treaty that Gasoil even made an artwork on it => it should be called "The Treaty of Golgotha"

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_DUxdPFq_-BM/TNrTbmZ7s1I/AAAAAAAAAGE/P6N36sgSpt8/s1600/Fonline12-Golgotha.jpg


7- But Rogues (and many other big gangs) soon leave server 2238 because of BOREDOM=> the treaty was never signed.

8-the server was empty and we begun our project without much trouble => as Stachi said, it was not much at the beginning : just people coming in and discuss about bullshit => but it was a new place in NORTH to enter and have some discussion (similar to BH project)

9 - The main idea was: gather people in an North town/ do some events without GM (combat slaves tournament/ trading/ special scenario well prepared on our forum who should involve newcomers and few "actors"

10- a very old team came back and had some "revival" : RDA => they made raids on Redding and thus bring some "natural" events to town

11- CS came back and totally wiped out Redding and Wasteland was utterly dominated by them => everything was again frozen in north cities.

12- CURIOUSLY, CS came to us and propose a deal => TTTLA accepted but without warning the other alliance teams! => hopefully we finally managed to convince them of this alliance because otherwise server 2238 would be as always => soon empty because NOTHING happened

13- Redding project started again and CURIOUSLY , it was CS who created most animations in town (by doing some RP discussions with alt character and by making some raids by groups of 5-6 raider in Redding mine)

14- Some Rogues entered in town peacefully to enjoy town => they were systematically shot on sight even in bluesuit => we replied them that they needed to make some alts (like CS did) to enter city because our project was based on outlaw blabla...

15- Of course it was unacceptable and a pain in the ass to constantly need to log some alt to enter city and than relog a warrior in time of war and I UNDERSTOOD IT=> that's why I made a poll in our private forum to change our  TOO STRICT rules for the sake of the project => I'm sure we would have found a way with a bit of imagination

16 -TOO LATE => as I was discussing with MSH on IRC to negociate some new rules, an alliance made of RDA+Rogues  raped Redding.

17- Everything went TOO FAST => we stupidly changed the agreement with CS from "cease fire" to "full alliance" to cope with RDA + Rogues swarm (many players like Hololasima still refused to fight side by side with CS).

18- We made a bigger swarm (around 60) => BIG FAIL (I will not try to justify anything => we played very bad because 60 people from 10 different teams/langages is difficult to coordinate)

VongJin:
He says the absolute truth as it is. Without sarcasm, false propaganda, trolling  or shit storm. And I must admit that I share his vision of the situation as it was and what it is now.

brad smalls:
see this is the problem if you did not want redding and take gecko you would be fine redding is to big of a town for the others to let go of

Cha:
Nice recall of the facts.

But asides from pure facts, there are a lot of personal/subjectives appreciations my friend  :-\

Heckler Spray:
That's a good recap, Cryo, nice job. May the Rat God protect this thread from trolls...
Personaly, I wasn't on hand when we decided to make this treaty with CS, and I wasn't agree, because I was pretty sure Rogues and Co would take this the wrong way.
But the main goal of this treaty wasn't to make some big alliance to defeat Rogues, come back to the "NA vs DA" era, or shit like that.
This treaty specified that we HAD to start TC in the other towns everyday, CS were still shot on sight with their PvP chars...
I must ad the Redding Project is not supposed to make this town like NCR, but to try to create an area where random people could say "yeah, That is Fallout", where you can come without being shot on sight, but you are free to use your gun if you've got troubles, you can spend your time to something else than PvP...

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