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BB gun increase range
« on: December 04, 2010, 10:41:11 pm »

Suggestion is simple. Can you increase range of BB gun atleast to 30 or 35 ?

It will make this gun a little bit easier to use than now with range 24.

I think that it cant ruin anything and it will be good choice for poor people.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2010, 11:49:07 am by Hololasima »
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Re: Red Ryder BB gun increase range
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2010, 09:35:28 am »

Suggestion is simple. Can you increase range of BB gun atleast to 30 or 35 ?

It will make this gun a little bit easier to use than now with range 24.

I think that it cant ruin anything and it will be good choice for poor people.
agree, The BBgun is just...a BB gun, does 1-2 dmg, only critticalers use this gun to hunt molerats
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Re: Red Ryder BB gun increase range
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2010, 11:27:44 am »

Yeah maybe normal Red Ryder BB Gun should be little upgraded (with dmg and range)
Because Limited Edition cannot get ingame.
Re: Red Ryder BB gun increase range
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2010, 11:35:03 am »

But.. the fact is that BB gun is a BB gun! It fires BB's. Not bullets. It's an airsoft gun, in fact, a toy! :P Use a bow to increase effectivness.
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Re: Red Ryder BB gun increase range
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2010, 11:50:16 am »

But.. the fact is that BB gun is a BB gun! It fires BB's. Not bullets. It's an airsoft gun, in fact, a toy! :P Use a bow to increase effectivness.

Yes but its still can be used on small animals. It no need to increase damage, only range.

And in fact its very very little change so i think it woudnt be so big problem to do it hm ?
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Re: BB gun increase range
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2010, 01:46:05 pm »

+11 hex in range is in fact a big improvement not a little change - you should know it. And if you want so big range you probably want it for PvP (cripple troll? :P ). Sorry, I don't buy your story about "killing small animals" at all, unless you mean low level bluesuits ;). I think it could be changed to require only 1 ST though. It would make it a bit more "special" not just crappy and cheap.
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Re: BB gun increase range
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2010, 01:56:31 pm »

 ;D Yeah sure i need it on bluesuit at Gecko mines  ;D

Are you serious ? Of course that i dont need it for small animals but yeah i thought for PvE.

And yes, as cripling weapons its good but for PvP ? Come on Jovanka ... with BB gun against Plasma or Avenger dude hm ?


Btw. Fact that you only giving FA in combat dont turn everyone else from PvP to trolls ...



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Re: BB gun increase range
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2010, 04:33:56 pm »

It needs no change. The BB gun is a low-tier weapon, only meant to kill very weak bugs. Only reason people can use it is because of criticals, which aren't affected by the weapon.

Not every weapon should be a long-range sniper rifle... it requires almost the bare minimum to craft, and uses the cheapest ammo. BBs don't even shoot that far in real-life either.

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BB gun against Plasma or Avenger dude hm
A BB gun shouldn't be able to beat a gun like that! It's fine that way. And, you could still get an insta-kill or cripple his arm with a BB gun, so in that sense, it's overpowered. Again, no improvement needed.
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Re: BB gun increase range
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2010, 04:36:15 pm »

In pre-wipe, when I had finesse, BB gun was my favourite weapon, because you like unarmed troll can come with it again and again, because you have 439857345 of them somewhere near, in TB you can easily make someone useless with it with 1-2 shots, in RT it depends on number of these guys, range of BB gun can't be more than range of mauser or 10mm pistol/smg, or else it'll be even better, I can remember crippling hands of Hawks or whatever else aPKs in NCR, where there were no guards, it was fun when I saw metal guys with miniguns/laser rifles running disarmed with crippled hands, till thier teammates doc them, if there was only 1 member, I could easily kill him with my BB gun, or atleast make him total invalid with both hands and legs crippled. Max. ammount of range that can be added is +1, so it'll have 25 range, equal to most pistols, so BB gun will be always worse than any other cripple gun, mostly because of +1 AP per shot in comparison to pistols.
About hunting "small critters" it whatever, you don't need a gun with sniper range to kill these harmless poor critters, I don't see any reason in this, plus if you're going to grind on these small poor critters, of couse they are usually melee, it means they will come to you anyway, and then you'll have almost point blank shots, atleast in RT, don't know about TB. Increasing range of BB gun will be good only in PvP, but.. well it's better to use AR/fal or alteast that crappy hunting rifle. The only good thing in BB gun is when you crippling someone's hand, then blinding and knocking him out, but his teammates killing you with rocketlauncher and minigun bursts and then you die, some metal guy running to your body with happiness and then after looting you, saying "wtf?? bb gun??".
If you want to use BB gun as protection against evil PKs with laser pistol (35 range) hoping to cripple his both hands while you're killing poor molerats, then you should take something... more expensive, because it's ok that laser pistol > bb gun, or run closer, or simply have deteriorated fully loaded AR/fal in 2nd hand in case of evil PKs appearing in your encounter.
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Re: BB gun increase range
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2010, 04:37:40 pm »

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BB gun against Plasma or Avenger dude hm ?
Possible, you just need to insta kill.
EDIT: RavenousRat said it all... hehe
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Re: BB gun increase range
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2010, 04:39:12 pm »

It needs no change. The BB gun is a low-tier weapon, only meant to kill very weak bugs. Only reason people can use it is because of criticals, which aren't affected by the weapon.

Not every weapon should be a long-range sniper rifle... it requires almost the bare minimum to craft, and uses the cheapest ammo. BBs don't even shoot that far in real-life either.
A BB gun shouldn't be able to beat a gun like that! It's fine that way. And, you could still get an insta-kill or cripple his arm with a BB gun, so in that sense, it's overpowered. Again, no improvement needed.

I replied to Jovanka, she said that it will be for PvP. I didnt say it first.
And, nobody said anything about next sniper rifle. I thought only to 30 hexes or something like that, not 60 hexes right ?
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Re: BB gun increase range
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2010, 05:14:12 pm »

Sniper got 50hex, but anyway.
But think about it. it just BB gun and it don't have much nothing power (Of course it got insta kill, but i wonder how many times you can get it even with 10LK and few perks)
30hex don't sound so bad and btw even Limited Edition got 32hex, but ATM is not ingame.

I just wonder why not make Red Ryder BB Gun stats like Limited Edition got?
you see soon more crafting releated suggestions.. just wait.
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