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[Cocain]

checking the stats between laser pistol and plasma pistol anyone can see that plasma pistol loses in every department to laser.. less range less damage

my question: is there any particular situation where plasma pistal is  worth it?

[JovankaB]

Not really, especially if you compare plasma with magneto laser, which has penetrate perk. Thing is, laser pistols damage was improved recently but it seems devs forgot about plasma pistol.

[Crazy]

Not really, especially if you compare plasma with magneto laser, which has penetrate perk. Thing is, laser pistols damage was improved recently but it seems devs forgot about plasma pistol.

Not a forget, they think it's OK - tough I see often magneto laser and already been killed by it in PvP, when plasma pistol have totally disappear.

[Solar]

Plasma pistol is still significantly higher damage than either of the laser pistols.

The relative prices between the two are off, but then relative prices between all weapons are off because there have been so many changes. It's known and will be fixed in time.

[JovankaB]

I'm not really great at math but I made some computations and I think the only case when plasma does significantly higher damage is when enemy is wearing Metal Armor or Metal Armor Mark II. Anything else is a difference of about 1 HP or less. Correct me if I'm wrong:


Magneto: 20-35, average damage: 27.5
Plasma: 15-35, average damage: 25


1. No armor
- 0/0 DR/DT vs Magneto & Plasma
Magneto: 27.5 (2.5 HP more)
Plasma: 25


2. Combat Leather Jacket
- 20/0 vs Magneto
- 10/0 vs Plasma
Magneto: ( 27.5 * 0.8 ) = 22
Plasma: ( 25 * 0.9 ) = 22.5 (0.5 HP more)


3. Metal Armor Mk.II
- 80/2 vs Magneto
- 25/4 vs Plasma
Magneto: ( 27.5 - 2 ) * 0.2 = 5.1
Plasma: ( 25 - 4 ) * 0.75 = 15.75 (10.65 HP more)


4. Tesla Armor
- 90/6 vs Magneto
- 80/10 vs Plasma
Magneto : ( 27.5 - 6 ) * 0.1 = 2.15
Plasma : ( 25 - 10 ) * 0.2 = 3 (0.85 HP more)


5. Combat Armor Mark II
- 65/3 vs Magneto
- 50/5 vs Plasma
Magneto : ( 27.5 - 3 ) * 0.35 = 8.575
Plasma : ( 25 - 5 ) * 0.5 = 10 (1.425 HP more)



In the end, considering that plasma has a range shorter by 15 hexes (that's really a lot, do not underestimate range...) and most energy users use aimed shots, in my opinion it's just not worth to use it, even if it was cheaper...

[Crazy]

I agree with Jovanka-and you have to think about bypasses. On armored opponent, the best way is to hope for a nasty bypass-and in that case, magneto laser is far better.
In fact, plasma pistol is totally unusable in PvP against a magneto laser (or maybe for a fast shot on a metal armor...).

[OskaRus]

On my opinion counting dmg against human armour has no point. Those pistols primary porposes are exping energy builds in which task is laser pistol supperior. (resistances to laser of centaurs and floaters are less or equal than to plasma) In serious PvP those pistols are usable only as bluesuit killer. Energy builds uses laser or plasma rifles.

[Floodnik]

Plasma pistol - is it worthy?

No, and that's a fact.

[Solar]

Hm, 15-35 still? Its meant to be 25-40. Bound to be a couple I missed

[Cocain]

yeah still ence my preocupation

[Crazy]

http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=9964.0


HAHA! I WAS RIGHT! YOU DIDN'T READ MY POST CAREFULLY ENOUGH!


...


Hrrrm, sorry, just joking ;p


It's a good news.

[Solar]

Well, at least you see how the Plasma pistol will compare after the next update - the numbers I quote in my post are generated from my spreadsheet where its been 25-40 for months