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I do

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I dont

4 (6.6%)

I dont care

5 (8.2%)

Nerf big guns instead

12 (19.7%)

Total Members Voted: 61

[vedaras]

Well anyone that has or had unarmed character in f2 or fonline should know that unarmed skill allows you to preform special attacks, and those who dont can read shortly in here: http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Unarmed . The thing is that these bonuses are quite good, for example +15% critical chance if you are able to cast haymaker, and all unarmed weapons are able only to be used as normal "punch" without any bonuses. This greatly reduces need of unarmed weapons usage. I think it would be reasonable to think that if you are able to preform special strike with your fist, you could still preform that special strike with your fist in a glove (like power fist). So the suggestion is simple, add special unarmed attacks with its bonuses to unarmed weapons as well.

[pistacja]

Unarmed weapons are better then fists in dealing pure damage (maybe except brass knuckles), fist and feet have the upper hand on critical hits.

[Imprezobus]

maybe add some funky attacks to melee?

[vedaras]

Unarmed weapons are better then fists in dealing pure damage (maybe except brass knuckles), fist and feet have the upper hand on critical hits.

ye kill someone with pure damage and unarmed weapon in pvp fight then we could talk...

maybe add some funky attacks to melee?

well melee damage already received a boost, dont know if they need it even more :>

[pistacja]

ye kill someone with pure damage in pvp fight then we could talk...

What makes you think unarmed is a skill for pvp? It's good on molerats and centaurs.

[vedaras]

What makes you think unarmed is a skill for pvp? It's good on molerats and centaurs.

all skills that can do damage are or can be used for pvp. If you lack skills or experience to use it that way it doesnt make them non pvp skills :>

[avv]

all skills that can do damage are or can be used for pvp. If you lack skills or experience to use it that way it doesnt make them non pvp skills :>

If pvp is all about skills and experience, can't you defeat unarmed fighter with your melee char by using skills and experience?

[vedaras]

If pvp is all about skills and experience

first of all where did i say that? dont invent another bike

to below: learn to read...

[avv]

first of all where did i say that? dont invent another bike

all skills that can do damage are or can be used for pvp. If you lack skills or experience to use it that way it doesnt make them non pvp skills :>

[vedaras]

as you vote dont be  so shy to drop a few words about it ^^

[foonlinecurious]

I don,t remember all of the different unarmed attacks you can get, but what if its some kind of kick? you can do a lot of damage with a good kick, and having brass knuckles wouldn't really influence it much.
so it depends on the move.

[vedaras]

I don,t remember all of the different unarmed attacks you can get, but what if its some kind of kick? you can do a lot of damage with a good kick, and having brass knuckles wouldn't really influence it much.
so it depends on the move.

well i think it is quite obvious that you couldnt cast a kick with your arm... So the suggestion is of course unarmed weapons to have only arm special attacks.

[Andr3aZ]

mega power fist -> eyes. Punch Punch Punch. Job done for me, dunno what you guys do as unarmed chars.
but yeah, i know, you need crits for such action.

[Johnnybravo]

I think this is quite a good topic, and definetly would be nice to get some answer.
Obviously, if you have HtH weapons that are barelly better than completly unarmed attacks, then what's the point of those weapons?
Then again, if those weapons are always better what's the point of all those special attacks?

Mind this, we should probably ask, is there any reason why shouldn't hth weapons be balanced around supporting those special attack modes?
Anyway it's a little messed up, because BI added two very similar skills, so that some stuff could be also applicable for melee weapons...

[Delta77]

unarmed vs bg with lsw = ?. unarmed vs plasma rifle = ? . unarmed vs 3 burst smg= ?. Unarmed isnt good for pvp dont waste your time, if you want to pvp choose another weapon.