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Author Topic: Changelog 26/04/2010  (Read 33577 times)

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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2010, 08:39:30 am »

No need to nerf anything. If someone got pwned by someone using feature, and they don't want use this feature themselves, it's entirely their damn fault.
Because if you nerf crits and sneak, next will be "nerf BG please", then "nerf aimed shots please", then "nerf high hp please", then "nerf mercs please" etc. It's endless river of whining, and we can see what such "fixes" did to TLA.

lol? TLA was planned to be co-op game, not gang-vs-gang game. Those, who think that it was made due to whiners should think twice.

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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2010, 08:41:30 am »

Is there an english forum or atleast a wiki or so where one can read whats going on over there at TLA? (kinda interested)

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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2010, 08:48:40 am »

i've been searching for something like that for a while now, i've even wanted to test it for a while, but then the wasteland became a Stallona bearing wonderland, i like it the way it is right now, except for the sneaky little devils.
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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2010, 08:54:07 am »

@Survivor

Another mutant lover?

@on-topic

Hopefully everything about FOV and sneak will get back to pre-wipe. Some boost for sneak is needed thought but not as big as it's now.
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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2010, 09:09:07 am »

Is there an english forum or atleast a wiki or so where one can read whats going on over there at TLA? (kinda interested)

afaik there is no wiki, and only ru-forum, where all discussions are.
And not to be totally off-topic, I still remind you about this :)

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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2010, 09:14:03 am »

oh yeah, that...
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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2010, 09:21:08 am »

lol? TLA was planned to be co-op game, not gang-vs-gang game. Those, who think that it was made due to whiners should think twice.
It was gang-vs-gang since OBT1, you can't be succesful playing alone.
"Terminator", "No full loot drop" - whing about "nerf crits" and "I lost my spear and flint, BAD GAEM!!11". That's where I and my friends stopped playing TLA. "Hell" - whining about "too small death penalty". "No lvlcap" - which means 80-lvl chars used WPE for steal and FA grind - whining about "playing after 24 lvl is boring".
Is there an english forum or atleast a wiki or so where one can read whats going on over there at TLA? (kinda interested)
Most of russian players know only one english word, "please". So, creating english wiki will be worthless.
Thank god.
I'm especially annoyed with knockout/crippling when somoene hits you for 0-5 damage, it doesn't make sense at all.
"It didn't hurt no, but he broke my arm!"
Pepper spray. Tazer. Rubber bullets. No lethal damage, but can cause some cripples.
We call low damage weapons like 10mm pistol "traumatic weapon".

I use sneaker for safe mining in unguarded mines and for some protection against thiefs when i'm going to trade. But hell, this is so imbalanced! Let's nerf miners and traders, they are so dangerous!
Now, when FOV is off, some people suffer from sneakers. When FOV is on, there lags that cause to suffer EVERYONE. Yeah, that's damn fair.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2010, 09:32:22 am by Survivor »
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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2010, 10:14:56 am »

Its not an endless cycle, its insta death that was stupid. Eye shots are still pretty powerfull.

Sneak is also stupid and would be nerfed to oblivion, except that its only there due to FoV not running smoothly yet. It will go because it destroys so many other aspects of the game and results in only sneakers playing the game - and even then its in a highly unsatisfactory way.
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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2010, 10:31:32 am »

Its not an endless cycle, its insta death that was stupid. Eye shots are still pretty powerfull.

Sneak is also stupid and would be nerfed to oblivion, except that its only there due to FoV not running smoothly yet. It will go because it destroys so many other aspects of the game and results in only sneakers playing the game - and even then its in a highly unsatisfactory way.
Instant deaths gives even a bluesuit a chance against player in BA with LSW. This is metagaming, but this makes game more easy to new players and makes ganking harder.
Sneak is overpowered now, but fixes that makes FS AND BS -90% penalty making it's absolutely useless. And you need really many SP putted into sneak to make it's useful, so with fix it's just like you spend your time making 21 lvl sneaker is wasted. Yeah, game with only sneakers is not good, but games without sneakers at all and with such lags (I once seen 17000ms ping) and crashes every 1.5 hour isn't better.
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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2010, 10:34:52 am »

i once had a monstrous 40k ping, that's 40 seconds people...
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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2010, 10:48:24 am »

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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2010, 10:53:27 am »

Instant deaths gives even a bluesuit a chance against player in BA with LSW. This is metagaming, but this makes game more easy to new players and makes ganking harder.
Sneak is overpowered now, but fixes that makes FS AND BS -90% penalty making it's absolutely useless. And you need really many SP putted into sneak to make it's useful, so with fix it's just like you spend your time making 21 lvl sneaker is wasted. Yeah, game with only sneakers is not good, but games without sneakers at all and with such lags (I once seen 17000ms ping) and crashes every 1.5 hour isn't better.

Its not metagaming, its ruining the entire concept of progression. You can spend hours levelling to 21, you can earn thousands of $ to get CA and the highest tech equipment of your chosen skill and then you go off into combat and ..... you have roughly the same chance as a level 9 player throwing a rock.

Someone who is vatly superior should win in the majority of cases, with only a slim chance of something bizzare happening. Which is what it is now.
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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2010, 11:02:57 am »

I'm just think that every battle should be a thrill, and wasteland is never safe.
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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2010, 11:16:05 am »

Carry weight must be the realy problem for sneakers, so even if you're bluesuit who carrying minigun and 120 5mm AP bullets in pocket much have slightly reduced sneak. Sneak should be possible with light weapon and max. leather armor, but better leather jacket.
Also if there's penalty for armor (not only carry weight), but it's impossible to make penalty for weapon, because he can keep it in off-hand, yes, it takes time to switch between bare hands and LSW, but when you're invisible and target don't expect you, it's not a problem. So weight of items must affect it really hard. So a character with SMG and leather jacket can sneak up to someone, but for bluesuiter with LSW it must be hard.
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Re: Changelog 26/04/2010
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2010, 11:25:04 am »

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That's a very good news !
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