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Author Topic: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk  (Read 8134 times)

Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2010, 03:09:30 am »

13% is the maximum possible and it's really not that often. That's roughly 1/10 aimed eye shots, you'd be lucky to get off 2 before getting bursted in pvp. 1% would make it useless.
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2010, 03:47:27 am »

Useless? What useless? We're talking about instant kills here, dude.
Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2010, 04:28:38 am »

Useless? What useless? We're talking about instant kills here, dude.

a "insta kill" that almost never kills anyone is quite pointless or so i think.

but, on a serious note.

having a power for snipers really would be handy, and you could perhaps add a difference based on your AG stat, if you've tried to shoot a moving target in the eye you'd understand why that'd make sense, since we're not taiking about a bullet to the chest, but rather to the eyes, which are a very tiny part of the body, it does make sense.

also, it would make the minigunners suffer if they could be seen and shot at a greater range than their miniguns allow.

i don't know how powerful they are in FOnline, but in fallout 2 i couldnt hit anything at little over point blank range.

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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2010, 04:38:27 am »

also, it would make the minigunners suffer if they could be seen and shot at a greater range than their miniguns allow.

Ok. Then a serious question. Do you play PvP? Or just PvP on the forum? Minigun's range is 30. Sniper can see a minigunner at the distance of 56 hexes and shoot him in the eyes/head at the distance of 50 hexes. They don't need to "suffer" because they are already pretty much useless.

Whole suggestion is just terrible, it will just make EVERY aimed shooter take Better criticals (which is already a wise option and it's stupid not to take it), thus it will change nothing.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2010, 04:41:34 am by Kilgore »
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2010, 05:06:11 am »

Aimed shots are hard to do in pvp, you rarely have the option to hit eyes and damage builds can burst you up to 5 times in a row. If you take away insta kills sm guns becomes useless again.
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2010, 06:51:56 am »

Wasteland is 'harsh'. Make instant kills do a roll on EN and if you have 5 or more EN the chance would quickly drop from e.g. 10% to 2% with 10EN.
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2010, 08:17:58 am »

It's like someone brainwashed everyone to say "wasteland is harsh" instead of thinking.
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2010, 09:27:54 am »

Aimed shots are hard to do in pvp, you rarely have the option to hit eyes and damage builds can burst you up to 5 times in a row. If you take away insta kills sm guns becomes useless again.

Bullshit. Ever heard of knockouts? Also you completely forgot about weapon's range.

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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2010, 01:30:59 pm »

I think we can all agree the critical tables from last wipe were better! (He says with only a hint of bias ;))

But on a serious note, instakills suck.
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2010, 04:14:54 pm »

Do you heard about "Azura Strike", "Tarot Card: Death" and "Link + EDP Sonic Blow"?
If you tell me that RO is unbalanced because there is instantkills, you have really serious mental issues.
Also the shot in the eye IRL will kill you instantly with 95% probability, and games is about imitiate reality.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2010, 04:23:18 pm by Survivor »
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2010, 04:38:15 pm »


Also the shot in the eye IRL will kill you instantly with 95% probability, and games is about imitiate reality.


First a game should be fun, not imitating reality. ;)
And sure are eyeshots IRL deadly. But 99% of the players who can do aimed shots aim for the eye. Do you really want to be killed with 1 shot, over and over again, without not even see the enemy?
Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2010, 05:37:26 pm »


First a game should be fun, not imitating reality. ;)
And sure are eyeshots IRL deadly. But 99% of the players who can do aimed shots aim for the eye. Do you really want to be killed with 1 shot, over and over again, without not even see the enemy?
That's why eye-shots must have real low % to hit. Atleast big % for redirecting to head-shot depending on target's AC, not your SG skill. So AC will be more useful. Also the same about head-shots, if target has great AC, make chance to redirect it to simple torso-shot.

Edit:
AC is dodging, so it should mostly affect not only totally avoiding an attack, but make it less critical.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2010, 05:40:07 pm by RavenousRat »
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2010, 05:44:50 pm »

Still, I'm against istantkills. They should not exist.

SG are ruined without istantkill? Well, I'm on the side of HtH as always, and no one is more underpowered than us, so... IF HtH fighters will be fixed and upgraded, than it's fair to have istantkill back  :)
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2010, 05:47:43 pm »

Still, I'm against istantkills. They should not exist.

SG are ruined without istantkill?
I made insta-kill with deteorated mauser today in NCR to one guy, because he didn't want to speak to me and sell .44 ammo, unfotrunately he didn't die, because guards reacted too fast and had good crits on me. So yes, I like insta-kills, and it's very good implemention to SG. Removing insta-kills will some ruin SG of couse.

Also, when they saying that BG will be always the best XP-giver at PvE... yes, it's faster, but eats tons ammo. You won't kill more than one creature per turn with only 8 AP and deagle eye-shot (6 AP), but with BRoF and 10 AGI it's possible to make 95% 2 kills/turn with low tier mobs and around 1-2 kills/turn with high tier mobs, so it's ok. ;p
« Last Edit: April 20, 2010, 05:51:06 pm by RavenousRat »
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Re: Restrict insta kills to players that have the better critical perk
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2010, 05:52:15 pm »

If you did insta-kill how the hell he could have survived?  ???

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