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[Roachor]

There's a difference between being a jack of all trades and being able to craft a basic weapon and be able to use it.

[Surf]

As I said, you can easily gain a few levels on the beginning, also cash. From this cash you can buy a weapon. When reaching the proper requirements (the skillpoints you need to craft) then you're able to craft. Where's the problem?

[RavenousRat]

There's a difference between being a jack of all trades and being able to craft a basic weapon and be able to use it.

I've not tagged science and still don't have any problems in crafting. It's easy as before.

[Roachor]

As I said, you can easily gain a few levels on the beginning, also cash. From this cash you can buy a weapon. When reaching the proper requirements (the skillpoints you need to craft) then you're able to craft. Where's the problem?

unless you have 7-10 int you won't have enough skillpoints to craft by level 6, if you dont have points invested into barter or cha of 3 you can't buy weapons. Even if you can ammo is expensive and hard to come by. Unless your char can craft you can't really do anything unless you are hth.

[RavenousRat]

unless you have 7-10 int you won't have enough skillpoints to craft by level 6, if you dont have points invested into barter or cha of 3 you can't buy weapons. Even if you can ammo is expensive and hard to come by. Unless your char can craft you can't really do anything unless you are hth.

If you have low IN and 1 CH... then you're monster-killer-build, and you don't need to craft.

[Lexx]

If you play a INT < 3, CHA < 3 character, I don't know what you expect.

/edit: Too slow.

[Roachor]

If you have low IN and 1 CH... then you're monster-killer-build, and you don't need to craft.

One char has 6 int and 1 cha, the other has 6 int and 8 cha. The low cha build is for pvp and can't level because he has no guns or any means to aquire them other than through alts and the high cha build wont be able to craft and use a laser pistol until lvl 9.

[RavenousRat]

My stats are CH=3 IN=8, science isn't tagged, and I don't have any problems with crafting.

[Roachor]

My stats are CH=3 IN=8, science isn't tagged, and I don't have any problems with crafting.

Post your character sheet and i'll tell you why your comments are irrelevant.

[Surf]

Wow, and I thought I am a "whiner"    

Roachor, you're making it sound as  if it is impossible to play the game in the moment. How comes that there are already alot of people running around with good weaponry, armor etc? And it's been already stated, that a laser pistol isn't really a "low tier" weapon, it's an energy weapon after all and they're meant to be hard to craft/ to get. So level 9 is a good start for it eh? You can also go for a other weapon in the beginning, or use the unarmed skill.

[RavenousRat]

Post your character sheet and i'll tell you why your comments are irrelevant.

5 8 4 3 8 6 6
SG Repair Outdoor
Finesse Kamikaze

;p

[Roachor]

Wow, and I thought I am a "whiner"    

Roachor, you're making it sound as  if it is impossible to play the game in the moment. How comes that there are already alot of people running around with good weaponry, armor etc? And it's been already stated, that a laser pistol isn't really a "low tier" weapon, it's an energy weapon after all and they're meant to be hard to craft/ to get. So level 9 is a good start for it eh? You can also go for a other weapon in the beginning, or use the unarmed skill.

I don't want to have to make another unarmed character to gather items for my other characters to use, this was my whole complaint the first time. Every character is so narrowly limited in what it can do that having alts becomes necessary. The people running around with good gear are the same people you saw questing in large groups, factions always have an advantage itemwise because they are their own mass of alts to support each other, single players get fucked over by the new system.

As for ravenous, you made a small gun crafter minus one tag, this thread wasn't about you.

[Surf]

And I'm telling you that this is Massive Multiplayer game. If you choose to walk the walk as a loner, deal with the consequences. Of course it's easier in a group, that's the whole point about it. But it's also not impossible to survive for a lonely player, even without alts. Especially the first part of the game where you struggle for survival is the best part of the whole game for me.

[Roachor]

And I'm telling you that this is Massive Multiplayer game. If you choose to walk the walk as a loner, deal with the consequences. Of course it's easier in a group, that's the whole point about it. But it's also not impossible to survive for a lonely player, even without alts. Especially the first part of the game where you struggle for survival is the best part of the whole game for me.

You are totally missing the point, this is like getting people to cooperate by having them all missing limbs. It's bad game design.

[Surf]

Yeah. Everything which doesn't suit in your way of thinking is "bad game design".