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Author Topic: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.  (Read 53277 times)

Keksz

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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #135 on: April 05, 2012, 11:06:23 pm »

WE want ca mk2 and ba bluprints ;]
And power armors,Bozar,Vindicator too :D
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #136 on: April 09, 2012, 04:18:16 am »

One of the thing I like about 2238 is that here not make everything is available especially faction gears. I mean the game is set in the time between Fallout 1 and 2 and some expects to have regular wastelanders armed with gauss rifles and (advanced) power armor.

I agree totally with this post.

Why the need for uber gear? I think people just want for the sake of having it.
I think the stats of a character come into play more when your not using an uber/insta kill weapon.
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #137 on: April 09, 2012, 04:30:18 am »

I agree totally with this post.

Why the need for uber gear? I think people just want for the sake of having it.
I think the stats of a character come into play more when your not using an uber/insta kill weapon.

and 900+dmg from a gatling critical is what?
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #138 on: April 09, 2012, 04:49:11 am »

and 900+dmg from a gatling critical is what?

Ridiculous, thats what it is. Especially for an MMO.

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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #139 on: April 10, 2012, 11:43:42 am »

Ridiculous, thats what it is. Especially for an MMO.
I am still trying to figure out why Solar made some perks like "spray and pray" to encourage such no-fun builds. Crit bursting is just horribad design.
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #140 on: April 10, 2012, 11:47:33 am »

beacuse everyone would take man of steel and ca on them and u have -20% to crit roll. with 25% crit build you would have onl 1-5% hahaha dont make me laugh.
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #141 on: April 10, 2012, 12:24:05 pm »

One crit, one death, awesome lulz...  ;D
« Last Edit: April 10, 2012, 12:28:25 pm by manero »
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #142 on: April 10, 2012, 02:46:41 pm »

Crit bursting wouldn't be so bad if the damages weren't so high. But lowest hp ammount for char is like 100 hp so there we go.
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #143 on: April 10, 2012, 02:53:31 pm »

Crit bursting is just horribad design.

Indeed. Though those builds usually lack quite a lot of other stuff , but somehow it doesn't matter. It's really not fun when your man of steel , psycho + 2 toughness( + adrenaline rush ) max HP tank with CA gets insta-crit bursted by avenger , yes i have that kind of build. The point is , there's no way how to protect yourself from crit bursters that run around with 20-25% chance of insta-kill.

Why insta-kill is still in the game at all ? It's bad.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2012, 02:56:28 pm by T-888 »
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #144 on: April 10, 2012, 03:59:37 pm »

if any of devs would just say a word if they are making an update I would be pleased... even word "soon".
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #145 on: April 10, 2012, 10:11:20 pm »

i think that when burst crit appear only the first bullet should be critical ,not all
that would do the trick
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #146 on: April 11, 2012, 01:57:40 am »

Indeed. Though those builds usually lack quite a lot of other stuff , but somehow it doesn't matter. It's really not fun when your man of steel , psycho + 2 toughness( + adrenaline rush ) max HP tank with CA gets insta-crit bursted by avenger , yes i have that kind of build. The point is , there's no way how to protect yourself from crit bursters that run around with 20-25% chance of insta-kill.

Why insta-kill is still in the game at all ? It's bad.

Let's be honest here, the only reason people are hating crit burst is because their precious tank pvp monkeys cant rush at everything  anymore :D
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #147 on: April 11, 2012, 03:23:42 am »

No , it's bad design. Do you understand what that means ? Just like SD is bad design , near impossible to properly balance. It's either those crit-bursters one shot everyone or their just useless , bad design. Did i mention it's bad design ?
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #148 on: April 11, 2012, 04:36:57 am »

but crits dont happen all the time , with SD u are right ... throwing should be remoived from it . but with crit bursters no its a different thing , they dont have auto crits so this is some other thing they are deafeatable ^^
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Re: Changelog 06/01/2012 with Server Wipe.
« Reply #149 on: April 11, 2012, 04:36:50 pm »

I have to disagree. SD isn't that bad if you think very hard. :)

There are very simple ways how you can protect yourself from them , the least you can do is have a character with 4/5 luck and have a decent amount of HP with MA in one of the worst case scenarios , then you have a chance to actually survive those SD sneaks. Very important thing is to pay attention and have a keybind on SS , since you have let's say 5 luck it's a quite low chance to get bypassed from that autocrit( it's usually from what the most damage comes , bypasses ). If you have CA or Tesla , you don't have to fear them at all if you have medium amount of luck. 10 luck ensures 0% chance to get bypassed and if you wear CA or Tesla on a sniper , they can't really kill you with 2 grenades , of course if you don't have some wannabe sniper 137 HP build. Gatling owns any sneaker SD builds.

The point is , though players say SD is so powerful , it actually isn't. There's many ways how to protect yourself from them. Then again against normal crit bursters there is nothing you can do , if you get shot critically by an avenger or gatling gun your as good as dead. Bypass or not , it's irrelevant.

Both bad designs , only one is much more worse than the other if you think rationally.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2012, 04:47:16 pm by T-888 »
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